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<0> nagual, useful would be something new for me so perhaps i should give it a shot
<1> What hardware do people frequently ask for support for? (excluding sound, gfx, hdd)
<2> ah great, works now =)
<3> wireless
<2> dunno what command i used to switch that ****
<1> korozion: hehe added bluetooth & wireless
<3> :) nice
<3> got the email too
<1> I figure it might as well be a modern handbook
<1> awesome
<1> dual core / smp support is also there.
<3> sweet
<1> http://www.nixfear.net/drivingdebian.txt
<4> Napta: this is the idea for the debian handbook?
<1> yeah. it's a first (incomplete) draft
<1> I've posted it to the mailing list asking for changes / additions and feedback. etc



<4> im not on that mailing list .. is it available elsewhere?
<1> Well I can forward my mail to you if you like. or you can join the mailing list :)
<4> forward :D
<4> if you dont mind :)
<1> Sure. PM me your e-mail please
<5> i think "driving debian" sounds stupid :p
<5> and in 2.6, it's spelled "flavour"
<4> says use Ukians
<1> ?
<5> :p
<4> Napta: flavor flavour .. humor humour :)
<4> ax axe :P
<4> color colur
<4> er
<4> heh
<1> znx: sent
<4> ta
<1> Midget-: I will make sure it gets corrected, don't worry :)
<5> :)
<1> mwahaha
<4> OH wait!
<4> :x
<4> er
<4> i think im a part of the mailing list O_O
<1> haha
<5> what mailing list?
<1> :o
<1> bad Midget!
<4> DrivingDebian@googlegroups.com ?
<6> THE mailing list
<1> yep
<4> nice
<6> where we discuss the secrets of hte universe
<1> Midget-: pfft all the cool people are in the mailing list!
<6> and pizza
<4> i guess thats why nagual was asking for my email :P
<1> ..so you must be there too!
<1> http://groups.google.com/group/DrivingDebian
<1> I beleive you can sign up there
<1> parteyyyyy
<7> you people and your mailinglists!
<1> Kristian: I multi-way skype conference would be hilarious ;)
<6> damned communicators thats what we are
<7> Napta: you mean ventrilo / teamspeak ? :P
<1> hahaha
<1> hell noo
<7> skype isn't cl***y
<7> skype is voicechat's answer to msn
<6> i dont think nagual speaks very good english though?
<6> according to him anyway
<1> denken_: hence the hilarious part ;)
<7> pft
<1> My local dialect is so strong that people in my city have trouble understanding me
<1> new york was funny
<1> I got lost one night



<1> infact, the problems started at US customs
<1> "HALT! CUSTOMS DECLORATION!"
<1> uhh?
<6> dont they always
<1> "CUSTOMS DECLORATION!!"
<1> "English mother ****er.. do you speak it!?"
<6> heh
<1> ahh you mean that blue bit of paper!
<1> I'm sure I walked around the same block 3 times when I was lost too
<1> I never found the front door to my hotel.. so I walked through the back way. mwahaha
<7> hehe
<7> I have that issue with my appartment
<1> haha
<7> so I allways enter through the window
<1> hahaha
<6> my my hey hey
<8> he
<3> crap
<9> hello!
<9> i'm running a virtual server, and i didn't install any dev tools on it... therefore, nothing is in /usr/include... however, gcc and g++ are isntalled, but i don't know which package contains the /usr/include files (things like netinet/in.h, etc)
<9> hmm
<9> actually, i guess i should run tasksel
<9> gah, that didn't have a "dev system" option in it
<9> anyone know what package i need to install to get a full C development environment then (i.e. not just gcc but also the headers and libs)?
<10> Vratha: apt-get install build-essential I think
<9> pfloyd: oh, much thanks :)
<10> welcome
<11> :S stoopid ipv6
<12> hello
<7> hey derek
<12> whats up
<7> nothing much
<7> working and reading basicly
<7> you ?
<12> looking for a way to split up iptable logs
<12> looked at cronolog, doesnt seem to be exactly what i want, seems to be more for apache
<12> i kind of want it to work like cronolog does with rotation though
<12> you use iptables?
<7> sure do, but not as a means of logging
<12> what do you use to log?
<12> something like snort that does its own logging?
<7> well, privately I'm not that worried about logging network traffic
<12> mhm
<7> and here at work we use snort for pretty much everything... considering we sell managed snort sollutions
<12> hehe
<12> ive had problems with snort in the past i guess
<7> the biggest problem with snort is maintaining a sane ruleset
<12> my own fault i'm sure
<12> i never felt sane with snort
<12> i always felt retarded as ****
<7> what frontend did you use ?
<12> i didnt use a frontend i guess
<7> I guess the most popular is acidlab ...
<12> if i did it was included with it
<12> would you suggest it?
<13> base is a good one
<13> i'm using it
<7> base is acidlab, isn't it ?
<13> i think they're related somehow
<13> don't know how exactly
<13> they look very similar
<7> I'm not too big a fan of them though
<13> me neither
<13> but it works :)
<12> if i'm using a drop rule at the end of a builtin chain should i just change the default policy of that chain to reject or drop with -P instead of ending the chain w/ a drop rule?
<7> yeah
<13> default policy imo
<7> yeah, default
<12> alright, awesome
<13> just be careful when you -F
<12> in what sense
<12> the policy wont be set back?
<13> no
<13> -F flushes the rules, not the policies


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