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<0> geant = european academic network
<1> ok
<0> they go geant2 -> nordunet -> sunet -> gu.se :)
<0> interesting path
<1> he
<0> (I peer with geant)
<1> well, that guy was nice, we had a lan there once, back in the days when i was still gaming
<0> hehe nagual I have a policy, if a box needs an upgrade
<0> I upgrade it
<0> and screw everyone else they can wait :p I aint working 24 hours a day just to people can get their **** 10 minutes after during the day
<1> yea, the good things about policies are they are flexible, so you can change them at any time
<0> nagual yeah, and since Im the CTO :p
<0> heh the only person who is really gonna whine at me is the CEO
<1> well, im sure you reboot boxes at appropriate times
<0> and well, he knows I aint gonna listen anyway :p
<1> and give proper warnings :)))
<1> SymmOffic: did you write the first series of bofh? :)
<0> nagual heh, I give proper notice if its worth giving proper notice
<2> i ended up buying a Sound Blaster Audigy card, weird thing is that the xmms volume control doesn't work o_O
<2> will have to do some research it looks like
<1> ferro thats odd
<2> have to manipulate it via alsamixer
<1> ferro: how much is it? is it audigy 1/2?
<2> there's no Master volume control, which is guess xmms makes the calls to
<1> ferro: i dont know about any of that stuff
<1> ferro: are you running xgl?
<2> it was $70AU, it's Audigy 1, they didn't have any SB live avaliable, so i went the next step up, this one has hardware dsp and EAX 3
<2> yes, i am running xgl
<1> on debian stable?
<2> no, on ubuntu
<1> the one thing that really prevents me now from installing a deb workstation is the fact that you cant turn off ****ing mouseaccel in x. and dont argue with me over this, i have tried all the standard stuff, it doesnt turn mouseaccel off.
<1> ok
<1> also, i like do a bit of gaming once in a while
<2> new cedega is out
<1> well thing is
<1> setting up a proper workstation takes at least a week
<1> 2 days minimum effective time
<2> yep
<1> but i saw a xgl demo today
<1> i want to run it
<1> but not on noobuntu
<2> i think you'll need to use 3rd party packages for debian stable to run xgl and compiz correctly
<1> yea
<1> im thinking of testing actually
<1> first time if i do
<1> debian just has so many more packages
<2> yeah? haven't noticed, seems ubuntu has the packages i want/need, never run into a problem packages wise
<1> well
<2> seems to have more packages and newer ones at that, but that's at a glance,
<1> im a bit particular
<1> if im going to use it as a workstaiont, i want it to -last-
<1> also, this is the first time i have hd space to have both windows and debian properly
<1> with 100gig + /home
<1> oh cool
<1> my nlp teachers golfer just won http://www.golfdata.se/tour/scorelist.asp?TID=MH0622A
<1> lear golf comp.
<2> cool
<1> that guy had been playing for 18 years
<1> and he met my teacher 2 years ago
<1> now he starts winning all his competitions
<1> his drives are 30-50 m longer, depending on what club
<2> hey nagual, can you jump on skype for a tick, need to test whether it works
<2> maybe i should look at google talk
<1> hm
<2> wanted to see if it's piping correctly to esd
<1> sure gimme a sec, havent reinstalled it since using new windows
<2> ah ok
<1> online
<2> bleh, not working, doesn't like my 64bit setup
<2> thanks though
<1> i thought you can run 32 bit apps on 64 bit debian?
<2> you can, most of the time
<2> skype is anal about 64bit libs though
<2> need to install some 32bit libs for esd and some other crap
<1> yea
<1> gotta love running linux as a workstation
<1> :)
<1> even with debian its a pain in the arse
<3> hehe
<3> mornin nagual, ferro
<2> heh, it's because of the people who code the applications (like skype), not linux's fault :P
<2> morning denken
<2> bbiab
<1> oi
<1> ferro: actually i think its the guy who chooses to use it fault :)
<1> thats why i say windows > linux as workstation
<1> most stuff, just works
<3> i would tend to agree with that
<3> though i think linux is more fun
<1> linux is a lot nicer, once you get it to run
<1> it just takes ****ing forever to get there
<2> fixed that issue i had with gaim it looks like, it was gnome's fault, seems to be fixed with xfce4
<2> serves me right for using gnome
<4> How long does it usual take for debian (testing) to adopt a new kernel version?
<5> :P
<1> a gangstah-string?
<4> strlen()
<6> Bishop_: when its done (tm)
<4> But can annyone approximate a median value of previus adpotions?
<1> yes
<4> And that value is?
<1> i dont know
<4> Can you guess? Do you remember how long it took for the last version?
<6> 4. december 2006 is planed
<4> For adopting 2.6.17 into testing?
<6> sorry i misread your question. contact the specific maintainer
<4> Is there any webpage where I can follow the progress?
<6> nope, maybe a mailinglist but im not sure
<4> What is the name of the current debian testing?
<7> etch
<2> if it's a problem for you Bishop_, i suggest you self compile your own kernel
<2> the config of your running kernel can be found in /boot/ you can just copy that config to the directory of the top-be-compiled kernel as the file '.config' and 'make menuconfig' check the options, save, compile
<1> kernel compile?
<8> [kp] To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too)
<1> punani lock kernel compile
<8> nagual: locking factoid kernel compile
<2> yeah, there's the debian way to do it, but i'm just a naughty bastard :P
<1> i prefer the above, its so easy
<1> well, newbiedoc.sf.net
<1> is what i usually follow
<2> found out the problem with the sound volume control not working in apps, SB Audigy (ca0106) doesn't have a PCM function call o_O
<1> gg creative
<1> dont we love them
<2> mplayer just creates it's own volume filter, doesn't change the current volume values in alsa, but seems to utilize the current values as 100% volume
<9> morning :)
<2> hey Napta
<9> ferro, nagual, rza :)
<9> punani:)
<8> i heard ) is the smile part of a face.
<2> thanks punani
<8> ferro: no problem
<1> ****, i tried updating my phone, and now it wont post/boot whatever you call it
<7> Napta, ferro, punani, nagual
<2> rza ;p
<9> ;)
<9> hows life guys?
<2> i need some thrills
<2> my life is boring the **** out of me
<2> yourself?
<9> skydiving ;)
<9> fun fun
<2> yeah, too pricy
<2> unless i steal a plane
<2> i do live near a small airport >_>
<9> :D
<1> ferro: are you planning to commit suicide? because if you are, can i **** you before you do it?
<2> quite an astute obsivation my friend, no... not quite yet, but if i do plan on it, i'll let you know
<1> thanks
<1> i appreciate it
<1> ;-))
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