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<0> hmm spam is on the increase
<0> you damn americans
<0> I run a tiny mail server and it's catching about 125 spam messages per day
<1> well hey all this viagra I have sitting here isn't going to sell itself...
<0> haha
<1> viagra not your thing? can I interest you in a penile enlargement perhaps?
<0> I wonder what spamhaus cl***ify as 'light use' of it's XBL/SBL services
<0> few hundred lookups per day? heh
<2> hi, having different servers running (gnump3d, mserv, cups, ...) and i can't keep up with the ports. i wonder if there's any convenient way to link them together. maybe making a /var/www/index.html that has links to the other ports?
<2> Napta: i'm happy my ISP filters all those out, apart from 1 or 2 per day eh
<0> at0m: 'can't keep up with the ports' ??
<0> elaborate
<0> ah yes, but when you become an ISP you have to filter them out yourself heh
<0> fun fun
<2> ehehe
<2> well different daemons can be accessed thru web clients on different ports
<1> use a caching local DNS server and it will help with RBL lookup time
<2> and remembering the ports is not that easy for stuff i don't use that often
<0> phobia: we do, the lookup time is minimal - but im worried about the frequency in which we hammer the rbl mirrors :)
<1> yah, it helps with that also though
<0> you are having trouble remembering which servers listen on on which ports?
<0> phobia: oh you mean run a local mirror
<2> well, one page that combines them all would be convenient, for example on the default port 80
<0> well I've contemplated that.. and just fetching the daily rsyncs
<1> that would work too
<0> I'll look at the spam trend (started rrd'ing spam) in a while and see what needs to be done.
<1> but I mean if you force long TTLs, etc. on your local dns server then it will only have to RBL a particular domain once during that TTL time
<0> at the moment the spam filtering is pretty good, I just don't want to annoy our rbl providers :)
<1> so it should theoretically reduce your hammering of the actual RBL
<0> ah
<0> no no
<0> it still has to ask the RBL service for the information..
<1> ok lets say you get one piece of spam from a particular mailserver, your system queries the RBL via your caching DNS
<0> yeah
<1> you get another piece of spam from that same mailserver, and your caching DNS should already have the RBL result and won't query it again
<0> my caching DNS will just cache the address record of the rbl
<1> has to be from the same mx though, so it depends on how many dupes you are seeing as to how effective that would be
<0> my mail server still has to queiry it to see if its onthe list or not
<1> it should cache all record queries
<0> but the RBL does not use DNS afaik
<1> well afaik RBL data is sent as a DNS record type, I forget which record type they use
<0> it would have to be TXT
<1> yah it might be a txt record
<0> I thought it used an actual protocol
<0> but if it does, awesome, thanks
<1> nope
<0> ahh
<0> then im not bothered heh
<0> not yet anyways
<0> we run a local dns cache
<0> thanks :)
<1> when I first started dealing with RBLs on SPA's central mailserver we were getting over 50,000 emails a day inbound
<1> over 45,000 of them were spam... and when I enabled RBLs it CRUSHED the system
<1> heh
<1> email began backing up and whatnot, until I imeplemented a local caching DNS on the same box
<1> solved it instantly
<1> what I hated was at that time the damn RBLs themselves were not all that reliable, we were getting alot of false positives
<1> so I had to weight RBL hits and not rely on them exclusively
<1> I set the threshold to 10, and an RBL hit counted as 5, heuristics etc. had to make up the rest or else the mail would get delivered anyway just in case
<1> it worked fairly well
<1> but it took months of tweaking to get it there really
<1> the damn users screamed like stuck pigs when they missed a legit email, and likewise screamed bloody murder when they got unwanted spam
<1> it was a lose/lose situation
<1> I am *so* glad I am not at that fscking place anymore...
<3> Now beryl loads halfway
<3> 2.0svn release
<3> it loads but I can't move any windows and alt-tab doesn't work, can't move viewports etc
<3> nothing works besides the Applications, Places, Desktop menu and writing in the selected window
<1> stian: keep an eye out for when KristianL is around, if anyone can help you with Beryl, it's him
<1> he's a lead developer for the project
<3> I nkow
<3> I've talked to him before
<4> isnt there anyway to do a VPN connection for IPSec in osx like PPTp does?
<4> w/o VPN tracker or addiotnal software?
<5> I have an issue in postfix.. when telneted in I can connect, get al 250's... use ehlo, then mail from:<...> it then just sits there... checking /var/log/mail.err I'm getting " postfix/trivial-rewrite[18960]: fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf(0,100): table lookup problem"
<5> .. even a direction would help me.. I check mysql.. the table is in there fine, the credentials are all set properly...
<6> when i type `date` i get a UTC date.. how do i get the date according to the timezone setup ?
<0> I'm sorry, thre is a limit of two answers per day in #Debian
<1> Macca: sounds like you might need to rerun tzconfig
<6> it says its Australia/Melbourne
<6> Napta, orly? :(
<0> yup, fair usage policies
<6> okey dokey
<1> date on my etch (testing) box shows me the date/time based on my tzconfig, I believe that is the default behaviour
<0> ahh
<7> damnit
<7> dude still has my nick
<0> yeah some crazy guy went on a mission to harr*** me a while back and took the nicknames of my bots heh
<0> thankfully held on to my nick though
<8> If I wanted a dedicated server to be running lighttpd...then...I should choose etch over sarge right?
<0> eh?
<8> well there are no deb packages for lighty in sarge
<0> build it yourself ?
<0> I wouldn't risk the potential stability of a server for the package management of your app heh
<0> etch is probably stable, but the debian people will only say WE TOLD YOU SO (I especially) if you have issues
<8> I remember seeing a lighty deb package, i think it was etch only. Or maybe it said "unstable"
<8> when I tried to compile lighty it gave me an error trying to run curl
<0> Well you should be asking yourself these questions, not us. for instance is it a production server /service?
<9> could always use a backport or such
<7> slon heh
<1> hahaha oops
<10> is there anything special i have to do to be able to do a ssh tunnel to port 80 on a VirtualHost?
<10> i.e. ssh -L88:thedomain.com:80 me@thedomain.com doesn't seem to work against it .. but i know that command is correct to say, redirect my local port 88 through a ssh tunnel to port 80 on a local webserver
<1> port 80 on the webserver isn't likely to be listening with SSH
<1> apache will be presumably listening on that port, not sshd
<10> the port 80 in that example specifiies the endpoint of the tunnel, that shouldn't matter right
<1> wrong
<10> because i know for that command, it works
<1> -shrug-
<10> that if i open up firefox on my local machine to port 88, it's tunneling to port 80.. no?
<10> ssh -L88:localhost:80 root@localhost
<10> so when I do ssh -L88:thedomain.com:80 me@thedomain.com against my hosted domain, i get "error id: "bad_httpd_conf" .. so I believe it really it's tunneling to port 80
<10> and maybe there's nothing i can do to fix it because i don't have root
<11> A way to update the actuall kernel with the same setting to the last one with apt-get?
<10> i'll give you a hug if you tell me what's "wrong"
<12> hi_societ: your problem is that the http headers probably have "localhost:88" in them, which your apache setup doesn't know about obviously
<13> i remember having to play with my hosts file to tell it that 127.0.0.1 was the name of the domain i wanted to connect to, so that by connecting to http://domain.com it'd actually connect to the localhost, but p*** along the domain.com part to the apache, so it'd know which vhost to use
<1> Gee: if you apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade it will upgrade your kernel ***uming you are using a kernel package, but if you are using a custom kernel then it obviously won't
<10> but port 88 on that side also, just specifies an endpoint, apache should not be in the picture
<12> hi_societ: I don't think it's the port #, but the hostname that's being p***ed in the http header. Try as CompWizrd suggested and put an entry in /etc/hosts for thedomain.com to 127.0.0.1, then try http://thedomain.com:88 in your browser
<10> CompWizard: ah okay i think that's it - you said the same thing as my ISPs support but they were more cryptic
<10> sweet i have a good feeeling about this
<10> i got the cheap hosting package .. the business package has a full VPN connection but costs a lot more
<10> with ssh tunneling i can accomplish the same, right?
<12> you should just use ssh -D
<12> ssh -D 12345 user@host, then point firefox at "socks proxy" localhost:12345
<10> well i have to login to my wiki, and there's no https
<13> oh, and also, they might not have port forwarding enabled on the sshd..
<10> hmm
<12> hi_societ: use -D, then you can hit the https port just fine
<13> though i'd think you'd not get that error, yeah
<12> I use that at work to browse through my home connection instead of through work
<10> CompWizrd: yeah, so it *seems* to be forwarding right
<12> ssh -D 12345 user@my_dsl, then point firefox at work to "socks proxy" localhost:12345
<10> pfloyd: yeah i'm still trying to figure that out,it's handy
<12> quite :)
<14> mornign
<1> nagual in da howwze
<14> oi
<14> something a little odd happened to me yesterday
<10> CompWizrd, pfloyd: awwwwwwwwwwww yeah. thanks. that did it
<14> i was getting a m***age (this guy is so great)
<14> and feeling sooooooo nice
<14> so i see the bus, and since its ****ing cold, i start running after it, and since im in good shape it wasnt hard or anything even though its very slippery
<14> anyway, when i come close to the bus, there isnt much room, and these two girls, who make eye contact with me, get off the bus
<14> so i continu running, since im at a pont where i definately dont want to miss it
<14> but these girls dont move
<14> they are maybe 16-17-18 or so
<14> so instead one of them drivers her shoulder into me
<14> but since i weigh about 60 pounds more than here, and i have the speed
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