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<0> yea, there is no space for a frontfan
<0> even when i took away all that dust
<1> you should see a libxaw 6, and libxaw 7, dev and debug packages, Kerrigan
<1> nagual: may I see a picture of your case again?
<2> I did not have libxaw6-dev. Installing it now
<0> Napta: its the antec sonata II
<1> ahh
<0> otherwise the pics i posted are still there
<0> sec
<1> you can't put intake cooling on one of them
<1> not by conventional means anyways
<1> if you remove the black front, is there not an 80mm grill ?
<0> http://nagual.linuxslave.de/2.JPG
<2> Still the same error message.
<0> Napta: no, i just checked
<1> hrmm
<0> there is simply no room
<1> what you could do is
<1> drill a hole on the side of your case
<1> where your hdds are :D
<0> hm
<0> yea i suppose
<0> but thats too much work
<1> hehe
<1> just get a 120MM delta at the rear
<1> and erm
<3> make sure you don't get filings in your case
<1> cover your ears
<3> the case has a 120mm at the rear already
<1> but it's not a delta
<0> err delta?
<1> very loud fan that will move alot more air
<0> i know
<0> its ****ing ancient
<0> i dont know anyone who has that since 4-5 years now :)
<1> I use delta fans in servers
<1> who cares about the noise in a rack ;)
<0> you build your own servers?
<1> depends on the server
<1> I never build rack servers
<1> I like the on-site response that vendors give you
<1> but I do replace fans if needed
<1> Last time I built a rack server I had to hack off the audio header on the motherboard so it would fit properly in the ch***is
<1> NEVER AGAIN! :)
<0> yea, this is probably the last machine i built by myself
<0> ill probably let my godkid do the next ones :))
<0> anywas, im off for a read
<4> Napta weird, that's not the first time I've heard of someone having to do that
<5> 13:11 < RedACE> What does this mean and how can I fix it?
<1> korozion: I'm sure its pretty common
<5> 13:14 <+thegreebo> wow, nice of him to hang around and wait for a reply
<4> yeah, I guess so
<5> RedACE: how do we ask questions?
<4> seems they don't stock replacement boards that actually replace
<2> See what computer I use for Debian: http://mini-itx.com/projects/coelacanth%2Dpc/ I think it's worth a look :-)
<5> join channel and wait one minute for the answer?
<1> much easier just to call dell or HP and go.. give me a xeon that fits in a 1u :)
<4> I've been happy with Dell
<3> rza, the channel seems dead
<5> dell is cheap ****
<4> especially when they throw out 0% financing
<3> I went to freenode
<1> The only problem I have with dell servers is that they are very power hungry
<3> and left so people wouldn't complain of cross-posting
<4> Napta that's intel for ya ;)
<1> they seem to draw more power than other servers of the same spec
<1> working with a limited set of amps per rack :(
<5> and they are cheap
<6> yeah a dual xeon machine uses what 400w or somthing silly
<5> and cheap isnt always good
<1> yep
<5> like in this case
<1> rza: depends on what you mean by cheap
<5> if you want to buy a good server dont buy the cheapest
<4> we have some pe650's that have been solid
<5> i mean dell is carbage
<4> except one is beeping :(
<5> garbage
<1> rza: not at all
<5> yes it is
<1> you're ignorant if you beleive that
<5> no im not
<1> Dell do pretty good servers for small / med businesses
<5> no they are not
<1> Are you saying dell xeons aren't as good as a xeon in say, another brand of server?
<5> yes i am
<1> or that dell's WD disks aren't as good as the WD disks in another server?
<6> isn't dell going to have AMD based servers or somthing ?
<1> stop being a troll
<4> guk yeah
<1> guk: I heard that
<5> we had a dell experiment a while ago
<6> dells high end stuff is pretty good
<2> AMD-servers in DELL computers are coming
<6> people just think of dell as the 399 computer company who intergrates everything
<5> two dell rack servers ( dont remember the model ). first two months = seven repairs
<6> well what the **** do you expect for 399
<5> thats the last piece of dell ill ever work with
<2> I read that i Norway's least credible computer magazine: ITavisen.
<1> thats called faulty hardware
<5> yes
<1> "**** happens" as long as you have a decent service agreement to back it up
<5> we runs tens of hp servers and one has been to repair
<5> hmmm
<5> let me count 1 + 1
<1> my old job we had an entire colo suite of dell rack servers..
<5> it doesnt make 3 here
<1> even the 4 post racks were dell!
<1> no problems
<4> we have a pile of 650's, and only one has a problem after two years
<1> and we had a 3hr business day response promise from them too
<1> Now Dell DESKTOPS.. I hate them things
<1> have you ever tried replacing a PSU in a dell dimension?
<1> you can't
<1> you have to order a dell specific part
<1> which costs about 90 for a 350w psu
<1> that ****s
<5> et ->
<6> yeah ... budget dell machines ****
<6> :)
<1> hehe
<6> Alienware is Dell ... and they are nice machines
<1> haha
<6> even the high end dells are pretty frickin nice
<6> :D
<6> but ... what do you expect for a p4 for 399
<1> hehe true true
<1> There are alot of choices to consider.. but if I wanted a basic web server for a server farm dell would be one of my options.
<1> I like HP gear too.
<1> I care more aobut the SLA that the vendor can provide incase we have a fault
<1> tends to win me and my management over
<1> past tense
<0> ok, i started reading the docbook docs now
<0> unless someone has a better idea on what format on how to use to write the guide ;-)
<1> plaintext ;)
<3> wiki!
<1> is it cruel to attach a small wireless camera to your dog's collar
<1> and have a doggie cam
<1> I'm so bored
<7> Anyone know of a HTTP proxy other then squid that can authenticate users?
<8> PIX firewall
<9> what's cruel about it? You'll get lots of closeups of ppls crotches
<10> oern, there should be plenty
<10> freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net
<1> psst.. just route HTTP users to null0
<1> APz: how about
<1> if I get 10 cats
<1> attach a PDA to them
<1> and send them outside
<1> and they roam about collecting information about wireless networks
<11> add gps tracking to them
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