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<0> but if you use ftp to dl that can resume as wel
<1> getright. yeah i know
<0> Shrike: hahah
<2> do any of u guys have a rough idea when etch will be released fully?
<1> lol
<2> when i attempted to install SID there was a cool menu asking me if i wanted to install desktop / webserver components
<0> yea in december 200
<0> 6
<1> dustybin, should be in every install i think
<2> its nice to install something without tacky interfaces
<1> yes, that is why i dont install anything during install but the core system
<2> is the 2.6.19 kernel supported in etch?
<2> This build finished at Fri Jan 19 09:10:23 UTC 2007.
<2> who creates the builds?
<2> Ian? or Debbie?
<1> jeje
<1> hehe*
<2> whats so funny?
<1> debian. was it a true joke?
<2> im excited, it feels like im installing a new computer
<1> :-)
<1> i am going to eat now. bye
<2> now people can look at me as a man, rather than a ucraptnu boy
<1> gl hf etc
<3> hehe
<2> 75% complete :-)
<2> im going to get a tattoo on my bum of that debian swirly logo thingy
<3> hehehe
<3> really
<3> how's the netinstall? fast?
<2> yes why not. and underneath it ill tattoo 'powerful and safe'
<2> no this isnt net install
<2> this is ISO download for the etch test cd
<2> and its complete, time to burn
<0> dustybin: good, then maybe your bf knwos where to aim it :)
<2> o_0
<0> more like (_0_)
<0> ;-)
<3> hahaha
<0> i wonder
<0> )_*_)
<0> does that look like a bum a bit from the side?
<3> no :(
<0> gymtime
<2> im now writing etch to cd
<3> coolcool
<2> do any of u guys write special shell scripts to setup your machines with all the software and settings u require rather than doing it all manually everytime u install a fresh OS
<4> i use g4u at work
<2> ive never heard of that
<4> g4u?
<5> i heard g4u is ghost for unix, http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
<2> cooooooooooool ive been enquiring about a linux ghost thing for some time
<2> here it goes folks
<2> im on the partioning method, guided or manual
<2> i think ill be a man and choose manual
<2> im going to use reiserFS for my root partion, ext3 for my home partition and XFX for my partition where large digital video files will go
<2> XFS
<3> oh
<3> but why?
<6> ext3 all the way
<2> ext3 is slow
<6> premature optimization is the route to lost data
<2> XFS is ideal for large files
<6> ha.
<6> the differences are too minute to see
<2> brb i need to get my head around this partitioner
<2> reiserFS is the fastest for small files
<2> so its ideal for system stuff
<6> reiserfs - killer performance
<6> and I'll still say you can't see the difference in those three
<6> some benchmark may show a percent of two of extra performance, that's it
<6> ext3 works on pretty much every OS and is quite foolproof
<6> which is good _when_ your system breaks and you need to get the data out
<2> ok maybe ill keep ext3 for system stuff
<2> for a average home install do u guys think 7gigs is enough for the: / main system partition
<2> and 2.7 gigs of swap space?
<6> 2.7 gigs of swap is overkill
<6> and the root size depends on how you'll do the rest of your partitions
<2> ill make another partition for /home
<7> For bash/etc you can use '\' as a line continuation character, is there one for dos/bat scripts as well?
<2> and another for /video and another for /music
<6> just create one for /warez
<6> and use that for both music and video
<2> i dont do warez
<6> of course you don't
<2> only if i ever have to use windows i do
<2> but on linux of course not
<8> what is a good utility that automaticly mounts USB devices?
<2> hotplug?
<5> rumour has it, hotplug is a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
<2> i try my best to stay away from proprietry software, legal or illegal
<2> im going to use this etch box for mythtv and zoneminder
<6> how about music and videos?
<6> only CC licensed music and videos?
<6> warez covers more than software, you know =)
<2> video is where mythtv writes video to
<2> music is where ill keep all the CDs ive ripped what ive bought and own
<2> i honestly done touch warez anymore
<2> dont
<2> what is the difference between a logical and primary partition?
<2> primary is for one type of file system, logical is for different file systems on same partition
<2> ive finished with the partitioner, this is what my disk looks like
<2> 15 gigs (ext3) for / 5 gigs (ext3) for /home 40 gigs (ext3) for /music 257 gigs (XFS) for /video 3.1 gigs for /swap
<2> for some odd reason the partioner thinks my sata hard drive is scsi :-S
<9> when starting firefox and xchat i get a segfault, everything else works, and they do too after rebooting
<9> any idea what may have happened?
<2> i used to get that when i try and turn my machine off
<2> try uninstalling using --purge
<2> apt-get remove --purge firefox
<2> apt-get remove --purge x-chat
<2> and reinstall
<2> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6270657.stm
<9> no need, its working now
<9> i just want to know why rebooting fixed the problem
<2> has it happened since?
<9> no
<2> well u dont need to worry now?
<9> no i dont, but id still like to know why it did happen
<2> are u using etch?
<9> sarge, getting from unstable
<2> i thought sarge was stable?
<9> it is.
<2> or are u using unstable respos?
<9> yes
<2> ok maybe thats the problem then
<2> something isnt stable?
<9> unlikely
<4> Hewitson: are you apt-pinning?
<9> its worked fine for months
<9> rza, no
<4> sounds like a "good" solution
<2> apt-pinning ? whats that/
<4> punani: pinning?
<5> from memory, pinning is 'man apt_preferences', or add testing and unstable lines to sources.list, create /etc/apt/preferences containing "Package: *\nPin: release a=testing\nPin-Priority: 900\n\nPackage: *\nPin: release o=Debian\nPin-Priority: -10\n", then apt-get install foo/unstable, or at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1, or read http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200212/msg00659.html
<9> ah its fixed thats all i care about.. i was just wondering if anyone had any idea what the problem was
<2> what does a segfault mean?
<4> segmentation fault
<2> the app has crashed?
<9> dustybin, basically
<4> application tries to read memory area which doesnt belong to it
<4> for example if you allocate buffer of 15 bytes and write 25 bytes to it causes a buffer overflow
<4> which leads to segmentation fault
<9> no idea why it happened.. this kernel version may have a slight bug in it
<2> can crackers access systems by making appz produce segfaults?
<4> no
<9> dustybin, no
<4> crackers exploit software which has for example buffer overflow
<2> ok and what happens once the buffer overflows?
<4> the program tries to read data outside the locations which it is allowed to
<4> that data can be malicous code by cracker
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