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<kintaro0e> nagual: i'm just confused on the /etc/networks and /etc/services..i have an application that i want to define a port no. how will i do it?
<nagual> you want to change ports ssh is ran on?
<kintaro0e> nagual: nope..
<nagual> what is it you want to accomplish then?
<kintaro0e> i want to make a port for my application
<nagual> you will have to specifiy that in the app then
<rza> kintaro0e: you dont need to make a port
<rza> kintaro0e: /etc/services is a list of IANA defined ports
<kintaro0e> ah..so can i edit services?
<rza> no
<nagual> and there is no file /etc/networks
<rza> kintaro0e: you modify the application configuration
<kintaro0e> ah..i see
<kintaro0e> thanks
<nagual> ^
<rza> /etc/services is just used to map name to port
<nagual> 14:05 <@nagual> you will have to specifiy that in the app then
<nagual> zz
<rza> like if you say "give me ssh" -> os searches it from /etc/services and then says "22"
<nagual> this is why its so boring to ***ist
<rza> kintaro0e: like if you type netstat -aN | grep LISTEN
<rza> it will give you services listening ports
<nagual> services?
<nagual> /etc/services?
<nagual> punani?
<Kristian> ... /etc/services is to ports what dns is to ip's O_o
<Kristian> so to speak
<nagual> services?
<punani> i guess services is have a look at /etc/init.d/README and/or /apt-get install rcconf, for network services check /etc/services or seifried.org
<nagual> /etc/services?
<nagual> punani listkeys services
<punani> Factoid search of 'services' by key (1 shown): services.
<nagual> i just got the dune (-84) dvd
<nagual> *yummie*
<rza> punani nagual is silly
<rza> permission denied :/
<Kristian> hehe
<rza> punani forget nagual
<rza> 15:12 <punani> you don't have access to remove factoids
<Tsunami> :p
<Genia4> rza: btw, thanks for recommending quantact :)
<rza> Genia4: no problem
<nagual> try now rza
<rza> punani: forget kristing
<punani> i didn't have anything called 'kristing', rza
<rza> punani: forget kristina
<Genia4> rza: any experience with irc proxies?
<punani> i didn't have anything called 'kristina', rza
<rza> works
<rza> Genia4: you mean bouncers?
<Genia4> ok, I'll explain
<Genia4> basically, what I want is to never be offline
<rza> use irssi + screen
<Genia4> if I were close to the server, I could run irssi + screen adn ssh there
<rza> no need for mirc
<Genia4> but I'm in Israel, server is in the US
<rza> put packaging on in ssh
<Genia4> hmm?
<nagual> so you are sayig itīd lag more if you used ssh instead? :)
<rza> compression
<Genia4> no, ssh lags, it would lag even with compression
<rza> nagual: ircing with lagged ssh is fairly annoying
<Genia4> yes, exactly
<nagual> rza: i know
<Genia4> so, I want something like a bnc
<rza> Genia4: psybnc
<nagual> but if its the same machine...
<Genia4> but if I quit the irc client at home, and open it later, I want to see what I missed
<rza> nagual: mirc takes input locally
<rza> that way the lag doesnt show while typing
<Genia4> some bnc's support backlogging, but then I lose the timestamps
<Genia4> is there a solution to this?
<nagual> rza: it doesnt matter, if you are somehwat experienced typer
<rza> somehwat?
<rza> ;D
<nagual> btw, you recommend a keyboard with keys like silk?
<rza> keys like silk?
<nagual> i want to be able to breathe at the keys and they are pressed
<rza> what do you mean?
<punani> I mean what I mean!
<rza> ah
<rza> like laptop keys?
<nagual> fullsize
<rza> but i mean like the keys on laptops
<nagual> i understand
<nagual> but those arent fullsize
<rza> not they keyboard size
<nagual> hopefully smoother than on laptop
<rza> ok
<rza> hmm
<rza> i like the clink sound
<nagual> well
<nagual> problem is, my hands are hurting sometimes
<nagual> and as you can see, i have some spelling errors due to the keyboard not reacting >(well not all of them :)
<nagual> so i thought id get one i could give to my grandma with reuma
<nagual> and use it for myself
<rza> have you got wrist support?
<nagual> nope
<nagual> thats not the porblem
<nagual> i need softer keys
<rza> get some ergo keyboard and wrist support
<rza> let me find an url
<nagual> the ones i checked out are all too harsh in the keys
<nagual> i want softer
<nagual> maybe i need to develop my own
<rza> Silicone Keyboard (Waterproof keyboard/soft keyboard)
<nagual> hm
<rza> http://www.ruggedtech.com/softkey.html
<nagual> rza: http://www.bigbruin.com/reviews/irockselkeyboard/
<nagual> i hope i can find that
<nagual> oh
<nagual> no standard size key
<Genia4> does apt-get have a package for psybnc?
<nagual> did you search for one?
<omes> Genia4: you can just compile that from source
<Genia4> nagual: yes
<nagual> there are no psybnc packages for any distros
<nagual> the license is...odd
<nagual> iirc
<NaRaK> irssi in screen :)
<Kristian> hear hear
<rza> hear ya hear ya
<Genia4> rza: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory <--- any idea what I'm missing?
<RedACE> you're missing crt1.o?
<Genia4> nevermind, found out
<Tsunami> with pain in my heart, I've got to shutdown my debian machine :<
<nagual> 4ever?
<Tsunami> nah for a few minutes, I hope
<nagual> hehe
<nagual> np then :)
<nagual> unless you are horny for uptime :)
<Tsunami> :p
<Tsunami> I am, a bit ;p
<nagual> well thats ok, you only have to have it up for 4-5 years in order to be able to compete at toplevel :)
<nagual> actually that would be a fun project, having debian being the only dist able to do more than a few year
<nagual> s
<Tsunami> oh ;p
<accel420> i used to admin a old novell box that had 4 years uptime
<nagual> at my old work we had a few machines with 2-3 years uptime, but we changed serverrooms :))
<Tsunami> at my old internship, we had yeaaars of uptime too, until a power outage :(
<Tsunami> now I hope it boots ok, hard to control it without monitor
<Tsunami> yay it's back \o/
<Kristian> so... does anyone know where my switch is ?
<Skiz> your basement?
<RedACE> ownd
<Tsunami> lol
<Napta_> hahaha
<nagual> FireEglīs router is having her period
<Napta_> as long as she still cooks him dinner!
<nagual> and takes her teeth out :)
<Napta_> we need more women in here
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