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<0> sh*t
<1> was wortha try
<0> no i remember it said something about adding user courier and group courier heh
<0> and i forgot
<1> i gota goto the beach, ill be back in a few hours
<0> arron ok..later
<2> hf
<0> thx for the help
<1> bbiab
<3> lol watching on tv some shockdoc about ppl married with their animals and also having *** with them
<2> lol
<2> welke zender? :p
<3> Tsunami, rtl4 :)
<2> lol k
<2> what the fo
<2> :P



<3> lol
<3> i'm surprised even for dutch standards !
<2> me three :|
<3> at least they're broadcasting late although most kids and such have vacation
<2> lol
<2> if that's possible, i wanna marry my couch :/
<3> better a couch than a mule in bed ;)
<2> lol true
<2> irc
<2> !
<2> :P
<4> ?
<3> who knows, maybe they're here for support ;)
<5> O_o
<2> they might be
<5> who what where now ?
<2> lol Kristian, bad time to reply :)
<5> this chair I'm sitting in provides plenty of support
<3> (LOL he's telling his first experience with a pony)
<3> ok lemme finish some work here before i get distracted by all the love on tv ;)
<2> lol
<5> lol
<2> Kristian, there's an shockdoc on dutch tv, about ppl marrying their animals, and having *** with them and stuff
<5> yes I caught that part
<2> ok :)
<3> lol they're showing now also a woman zoofilian :)
<2> i'm watching a shockdoc about ppl getting things stuffed up their anus
<3> lool
<3> i remember a jack*** scene where this guy put a model car in his anus and went to a doctor :-)
<2> SBS6 :)
<2> sick ****
<3> lol
<3> some accidents in OR ;)
<6> weirdos :)
<2> lol
<3> Napt4, are you the real Napta btw ?
<6> maybe
<3> not :-)
<6> start my new job tomorrow
<7> Napt4: what is your title?
<7> Napt4: how much more for the new job per yr?
<6> *** technician
<6> 45k
<8> lets not talk to Napt4 about ***, he had a piece of *** last night, but chose to bring her to IRC
<7> Napt4: noc?
<6> haha
<8> ;)
<6> war--: nah, sun admin
<9> where is apaches httpfolder?
<2> /var/www
<9> oh
<9> thx
<2> np
<7> Napt4: not bad
<7> Napt4: age?
<6> me?
<10> rumour has it, me is the most important person in the whole world!!
<6> 21
<7> Napt4: your first job?
<2> not bad :)



<7> Napt4: what raise did you get from current-> new job? you exicted?
<2> not that easy to find an good IT job nowadays
<6> war--: been working since i was 16 or so
<7> ah.
<6> war--: erm, bout 10k give or take. had bonuses at old job though
<6> aye, quite excited.
<7> Napt4: nice
<11> Tsunami: i appreciate you helping people. Let me give you something i think most people here use already. instead of telling them where, show them where they can check for themselves (httpd.conf in this case)
<0> hi, need some help with courier-imap...i cant create any folders..it says server refused it when im trying...
<12> anyone running debian on sparc?
<13> can anyone tell the downsides with Nutty ?
<9> Hm, nfs-kernel-source still needs samba to share files over network?
<14> NFS is not the same as NTFS. NFS is a network file sharing protocol, NTFS is a filesystem. If you want to "share"(read perms) files from your harddrive, you can do it by many different protocols (e.g FTP, NFS, HTTP, SMB)
<14> it's just that the people wanting to view your files will have to use a client that utilizes the protocol you have specified, and you must have a server application which has the ability to utilize that protocol
<5> and nfs and samba are two diffrent network sharing protocols...
<9> Whoa, that was a hellofalot more of an answer than i expected. :D
<5> you can share files over network with just nfs, but windows doesn't have native support for nfs (it uses smb, which requires samba on linux)
<9> Its just.. Im not 100% at debian or linux and ive heard that samba is a bit of a pickle to get to work.
<14> easy way around it, use ftp, but that requires your users to not be slack-arses, so that might be out of the question
<5> if you are sharing from linux to windows (ie: using your linux machine as a file server), I would say samba is pretty straigth forward
<9> But, i guess, it doesnt do anything sitting here whining about it.
<5> hehe, true
<9> The other way around, i would like to interact with the files in real-time or something close
<9> WEll not interact, more like read?
<14> you mean like play a movie on the share and watch it as it's downloading?
<9> right, except it wont download, just stream? B)
<14> without storing a copy on your system
<14> yep i got'cha
<14> you can do that with a movie player (e.g mplayer) that supports the ftp protocol :P
<5> btw ferro, I guess I'm a slack-arse because I use samba
<5> that's just silly
<5> ftp and samba/nfs is not the same category
<14> depends on what you want to do
<5> not really
<5> it's not the same
<5> it's like phone and e-mail. you can transmit information with both, but they're not the same
<14> you get the same result, upload data, download data
<9> mplayer can stream from ftp? why am i not surprised. :)
<5> you use smb and nfs to get a "network file system", while you use ftp to transfer a file from A to B
<14> btw, how fast does SMB work, does it utilize a full 100mbit connection?
<9> But really thats not exactly what i want, i want to be able to browse through the folders (thinking about having it as a multimedia center) and play/read/whatever as if nothing? :)
<5> trygg: yeah, you want samba if windows machines are involved
<5> trygg: if it's all linux, nfs is simpler (both nfs and smb are considered unsafe though, so not something you want to expose to the internet)
<9> So its possible to have the windowscomp as a "server"
<14> there's multiple ways to skin an elf trygg, you can do it via SMB, you can do it another way, just depends what you can be bothered doing
<14> i noticed you don't get a "speed" display when in transfering to/from shares, wondered if it was because the M$ protocol was so dodgy that the speed fluctuated drastically and the overall speed was low
<14> (in windows)
<5> I don't care about that, I know I can stream 5-6 videos over smb without problems, maybe more too but I've never tried
<9> I guess i will have to dig into this sambathing.
<5> I don't use SMB to copy files, and thus the whole speed-display is irelevant
<5> and ferro .... you don't get a speed display when transfering to/from an nfs share either
<5> for the record; I use both samba and ftp. when copying files (movies to my laptop usually), I use ftp, otherwise I use the samba share. makes everything a whole lot simpler
<5> would've been a bitch to set up "My Documents" on a ftp directory, but it's trivial with a samba share
<9> Sounds awesome.
<9> So, final question, it is possible to host files on a windows-comp and use linux to stream (like music or movies) like it was its own files?
<5> yes
<5> but that's the trickiest direction I belive.
<5> but still shouldn't be too much of a problem, even for a beginner
<14> 700mbs on a gigabit connection over SMB with some tweaks, not bad
<9> excellent. thanks for the help ferro and Kristian.
<14> np
<5> dunno why you're so worried about the throughput
<14> because it doesn't tell you, which is why I want to know
<14> it's about *knowing*, then I can apply that knowledge to whatever situation (e.g copying blah from persons comp, either FTP or SMB avaliable, ask for FTP access or just use SMB share. Dependant on overall time delay)
<5> fair enough
<14> i don't care whether or not someone else thinks it's important to know such supposidly trivial information, but I do want to know ;)
<5> but today with gigabit lan beeing so common, it's usually other parts of the system that's the problem when you're doing large transfers (read: the hard drives)
<14> yeah i know
<5> my biggest problem with smb at the moment is that windows some times simply fails to mount the shares upon boot
<14> hehe
<5> which is slightly anoying as I have menus on the start menu which are direct links to those shares, which will then be missing even after I remount, meaning I have to go to start menu properties and remove/add them again...
<14> can't you supply a direct IP location, instead of being name dependant?
<5> uh?
<5> I mount 192.168.133.7\$user to m: and 192.168.133.7\tsk to z: , m: is "My Documents"


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