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<0> nagual: you around?
<1> hello
<2> hele
<2> heoleh
<2> heugi
<2> hi
<1> I was thinking about renting a dedicated AMD X2 dual 5200. The hoster is telling me that debian doesn't run on this system, because there are no drivers available yet... bull**** or true?
<1> sounded kinda weird to me
<2> eeh
<3> drivers for what?
<2> bull****
<2> or waddayamean?
<2> i have an amdx2 myself
<2> or do you mean dual amdx2
<3> i have two dual opteron 265's at the office, and that's more complex than a simple x2 5200+
<1> yes dual amdx2
<3> yeah, that's bull**** then
<3> cause x2 doesn't do dual :)
<2> yes. should be
<1> he told me that debian doesnt have drivers yet for the AMD X2 Dual Core
<3> oh, it does
<2> that is crap
<2> it does
<3> but there's no dual x2 setups
<2> i have
<2> i have an amdx2 myself
<3> hell, linux had drivers for that probably many many years ago
<2> this box i am using right now. i have used it since may 2006. omg plz.
<2> well you could surely run this with a i386 vanilla kernel
<3> are you talking two x2 5200+ chips, or a single x2 5200+ with dual cores?
<1> single with dual cores
<3> ahh, ok
<3> then yeah, that's possible, and works just fine
<3> just needs an SMP kernel
<1> i guess ill find another hoster that knows what he's talkin about ^^
<2> you do so
<3> even a plain i386 smp kernel would work, and linux supports the k8 just fine in smp as well
<2> yes
<1> i guess he never heard about SMP kernels =)
<2> you dont do it until you need them
<2> as with everything.
<2> or not...
<3> even a stock debian kernel with smp would work on that athlon, let alone compiling something special
<1> okay, great :)
<1> maybe a bit 'off-topic', but do you think an AMD X2 dual core 5200 (2.6ghz) is much slower than a dual XEON 2.8ghz?
<3> i'd expect it tob e a lot faster, depending on what that xeon has in cache
<1> the amd faster?
<3> yeah
<1> i don't know about the cache really
<3> against a modern xeon based off the core2duo, would expect it to be slower
<1> okay :) thanks for the info
<1> i was just wondering, since i heard you can't really compare a X2 with a Xeon based on Ghz
<3> the athlon is a lot more efficient per clock cycle
<3> but the core2duo based xeons are the same way, so they're even faster per mhz
<1> and the difference between a dual (2x cpu) and a dualcore isnt really that big?
<1> except for the price ^^
<3> motherboards are a lot more expensive on dual cpu systems
<3> and from there, memory costs a lot more too
<3> there's some performance differences, espeically if you have opteron units
<1> alright, so not really worth the price for regular people :)
<1> brb
<4> What do you think he defines "regular" as...
<5> lol
<0> xtor did you find the documents?
<0> I was about to paste you this URL about it when nagual kb'd you :P
<0> http://www.freenet.org.nz/misc/knoppix-install.html
<6> lo all
<7> morning
<6> how goes it nagual
<7> im pretty good
<7> you?
<6> ok
<6> just watching tv a bit
<6> its been pretty cold here lately (los angeles)
<6> its nice
<6> its funny listening to everyone whine about the weather
<7> hm
<6> it hit the 40F and alot of people lost their minds
<7> how cold?
<6> 4.5C
<7> yea
<6> approx
<7> onlineconversion :)
<7> thats ok though
<7> thats what we have
<6> yeah I just checked google
<7> or in the therebaouts
<6> its been like the better part of a week and ppls are freaking already
<7> hm
<6> this place usually has the worst weather (decent but always the same)
<7> i suppose your houses arent built for that kind of cold
<6> no rain, no thunder, no lightning, no snow, now change of seasons (it happens but you can barely tell)
<7> hey, im not a really big fan of winter, but personally, id like to have 1 month of snow, with say -5 c every year around x-mas
<7> and the rest = warm
<7> well
<6> yeah
<7> seems the climate is changing
<7> so you better get used to it
<6> its not the same hanging xmas lights in your shorts sharing a beer with the neighbor
<7> you will probably be able to make some money off of this
<6> its nicer for hanging the lights but doesn't feel right
<7> what doesnt feel right
<7> Bilingualism Delays Onset of Dementia
<7> according to /.
<7> i wonder how they define bilingual
<7> i have had 2 languages i consider my 'mothertounge' so im definately bilingual
<7> but
<7> im also very good at english
<6> well theres engrish, then theres english, then theres american, then theres southern californian =P
<7> im just wondering
<7> does this make me trilingual
<7> how do they define this
<7> so iLLf8d when will the us come out of the middleages and start using the metric system?
<6> its probably some bogus statistic
<7> ;-)
<6> I dunno its hard to change
<6> I mean its not difficult but if its working
<6> its like the move from lilo to grub
<6> took me forever to make it
<6> I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened already
<6> even minimally
<7> witch one+
<6> even paper sizes are different
<6> wtf
<7> metric or grub
<6> a unified world measuring/sizing system
<6> letter paper isn't even the same size
<6> you'd think that computers and computer hw would've forced that a long time ago
<7> hm
<7> a4?
<6> yeah I think its called that but there are euro/intl and american equivs
<7> hm
<7> you might be right
<6> our sheets are 8 1/2 x 11
<6> and euro sheets are skinnier and longer
<7> http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=hamilton/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1168470616997&call_pageid=1020420665036&col=1014656511815
<7> thats pretty cool
<6> I ***uMEd that letter = letter when I was working with some cad apps and I was wrong when I tried to printout pdfs
<6> nagual, heh looks interesting wonder what happens when he's gotta pee
<7> hehe
<6> probably has an access port for #1 and #2 =P
<7> 'dont drink liquid 5 hours before usage'
<6> probably slide right off the ****ter
<7> ;-)
<0> how are you guys tonight
<6> good how goes it phobia
<0> not too bad
<6> a detachable transponder that can be swallowed in case of trouble <- lol
<6> you look like ironman in that suit and you're gonna get into enough trouble to swallow a transponder
<7> hey p
<0> nagual: http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ph0b1a/detail?.dir=1b2fre2&.dnm=a9edre2.jpg
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