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<0> anyone with experience on PCIe parallel port cards?
<1> Hi, where can I download a dvd image of debian that would support a SATA hard drive in a laptop
<2> get etch
<2> cdimage.debian.org
<2> current testing
<1> it says 3.1_r4, would that be right?
<2> yes
<2> no
<2> you want testing
<3> etch daily build should work
<3> but hasnt etch been frozen? doesnt that effect the daily builds?
<2> bugs are fixed
<3> oh right so the dailys are still being updated/
<4> hi, how do i sort by memory used in top?
<5> no-one knows because it's DEFINITLY not documented anywhere
<5> (that's a clever way of saying rtfm)
<6> I'm trying to install the Eclipse IDE for Java but when I run apt-get install eclipse-sdk it says it can't find that package. I suspect it has something to do with it being in the "unstable" branch but I have unstable listed in my /etc/apt/sources.list and it still isn't working. What do I need to do in order to get this package?
<6> I have this line in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable contrib non-free
<6> I also tried apt-get install eclipse and I get the same error
<5> if you have to ask, you should NOT be using unstable.
<6> there is no other version for eclipse and i want it
<5> ok, well that makes everything much better
<5> or not
<6> What is preventing me from being able to find the package?
<7> prec: did you apt-get update after you modified your sources? ;)
<5> prec: incompetence
<6> my sources was like that already, but yes i did update
<6> KristianL: Sorry, but I'm new to Debian.
<5> yes
<5> and I would help you but not when you insist on using unstable
<6> how else can I get the eclipse package when it is listed as unstable? I need it.
<6> it is apparently unstable or nothing so i need unstable
<5> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
<6> i can do that but I thought it would be better to keep it as a package in apt
<5> it would, but you don't want to use unstable if you're new to debian
<6> so should I remove the lines with the unstable branch in my sources.list?
<5> well, if you allready did apt-get upgrade you're allready using unstable...
<6> that could be
<5> well, you have two choices
<6> i havent used apt-get upgrade but i have upgraded packages using Adept
<5> basicly, you can just go with it, and do apt-cache search eclipse to find the correct package for eclipse, or you may want to reinstall to etch, I guess you might as well use unstable until you run into problems
<6> i am using etch
<5> not if you have unstable in your sources
<6> ok, so some of my packages are unstable and some etch... i took the unstable listing out
<5> you're better off with full unstable than half unstable half etch
<6> im just playing around anyway, this isn't a production machine or anything
<5> yeah, but if you allready upgraded some packages to unstable, you will have less problem with 100% unstable, less conflicts and such
<5> and you'd get eclipse if it's in unstable ...
<6> that is odd then because it was telling me that eclipse couldnt be found
<6> if i have a listing for etch and unstable both in my sources.list, will one take precedense?
<5> the one with the newer versions, generally
<5> meaning unstable
<6> because i had this one: deb http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian/ etch main contrib
<6> followed by this: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable contrib non-free
<5> add main
<5> so it sais
<6> i have this too: deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
<5> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable contrib non-free main
<6> im confused about the sources.list stuff, obviously...
<8> can i dual boot win xp server 2003, win xp and debian all 3?
<5> no
<5> becaus dual means it's two
<5> so that wouldn't be dual booting
<8> triboot?
<5> but on lilo/grub's account, there's no problem with booting three or more os'es
<9> hi there, somebody here who installed php as cgi?
<8> so first install either of the windoes os's, then install the other os's, then linux last?
<5> that's one way of doing it
<5> probably the most convenient too I guess
<10> lol
<10> how goes it KristianL
<10> lo all
<5> as windows isn't actually helpfull when it comes to setting up a boot loader to boot Linux
<5> evening iLLf8d
<10> why the L Kristian taken atm?\
<5> I guess so
<5> still is
<10> whats new?
<5> not much, working on a couple of deadlines with beryl, applying for a job, school's starting "tomorrow" and ticket sales for a lan party a few buddies and I arrange (100~ participants) starting tomorrow
<10> nice
<10> what are the current lan party favorites (at your buddies party that is)
<5> the same as allways
<5> but I usually go there because I find arranging it fun :)
<10> I haven't been to one in a few years now
<5> CS
<5> CS CS CS
<10> last time it was alot of cs
<5> lamers
<10> yeah
<10> still huh
<10> bummer
<5> not much of a point having a contest in WoW
<10> they were playing wtf was it called the one with the aliens in it
<5> oh, that one :p
<10> natural selection maye
<10> I forget what its called
<5> alien vs predator?
<10> maybe **** its been so long I forget its name heh
<11> any mail clients out there that can handle an 8gbyte mbox?
<11> mutt and pine can't
<12> people still use mbox?
<12> ;)
<13> evolution might
<11> korozion: yeah :)
<11> i can't even pop3 it over to something else, cause i can't find a pop3 daemon that handles that either :)
<12> :x
<11> ah well
<11> i got the one mailbox that was 4 gig cleaned out, seems to be mutt can't handle any larger
<11> it was using a gig of ram and saying there was 1.2 million emails, when i tried on the 8gb
<13> i would say that it's time to use 'split' on that mbox
<3> what about converting it to a maildir?
<13> or 'unlink mbox'
<13> who wants to sort through 1.2 MILLION messages
<11> Thuryn: it's not actually 1.2 million though :)
<11> Skiz: that takes a couple days, from experience :)
<11> and by then there'd be another gig or two in it
<11> :)
<11> the 1.2 million was because mutt is braindead and kept reloading the file over and over
<11> not the end of the world, rzip does REALLY well on mbox files
<11> so that 8 gig file will compress down to about 600 meg or so
<11> for archival
<5> 1.2 million maildir-files isn't much better
<5> (picking up the thread from Skiz )
<3> yeah I'd suppose split is the way to go
<3> either that or a decent spam filter lol ;)
<11> yeah, then i'd have to search through them for the 10 meg bounces from my blackberry :)
<11> oh, it's not spam
<3> o_O
<11> it's email gone amok
<11> though, it started with spam
<3> catchall?
<5> two postmasters bouncing eachother :p
<11> my brotehr forwarded me about 10 spam emails so i could block them
<11> that got forwarded to my blackberry
<11> blackberry **** itself and said i can't send that, and bounced it back to the forwarder, adding a few lines in the process
<3> ouch.
<11> my forwarder said HEY, NEW EMAIL!, and forwarded it to to blackberry
<11> a few thousand emails later, we're talking 10 meg emails back and forth
<3> lol
<11> each getting bigger and bigger
<11> i got them out of my phone account, just debating if it's worth the effort to get them out of the catchall
<5> hey, I was close
<11> which NORMALLY goes up about 5 gig a month, it's been going up a gig a day or so
<11> and i shut the forward off awhile ago
<11> and blackberry is STILL processing a few days ago, i think
<11> and every time i think it's ok to turn the forward back on, they puke up another old one
<11> heh.
<11> but rzip is REALLY good at fixing up that kinda thing, so storing 700 meg isn't a big deal.. bzip2 or gzip was like 2-3 gig on a 5-6 gig file, rzip is 700 meg
<5> night people
<13> i would write a perl script to read it and split each message into a separate file
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