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<0> so thats the version it will install!
<1> probably a ddos or so
<0> hiya Radiance
<2> sarge has v2.0.3, sounds like you're running an older version of debian
<1> but it sux, since yesterday i noticed it
<1> hey Naptalicious :)
<2> see http://packages.debian.org to search through distro releases and packages
<1> nagual, it's like murphy is creating havoc there when one expects important mail lol
<3> V 3.0
<1> i noticed that from the u.s it loads, just not from many europian countries
<3> I've got vsftpd_2.0.3-1_i386.deb but it won't install
<0> AndrewOC: its probably not from sarge
<2> that is the version sarge uses
<0> ah, so user error ?
<0> AndrewOC: if you do an apt-cache search vsftpd
<0> are there two versions?
<2> i think you mean show napta
<2> ?
<0> no no
<0> search
<0> to list all of the packages
<0> maybe theres a vsftpd1.. vsftpd2, bla bla
<0> who knows
<4> ah i just got my new couch
<3> apt-cache search vsftpd
<3> vsftpd - The Very Secure FTP Daemon
<2> na, there isn't for sarge
<4> its excellent
<0> AndrewOC: do you have odd sources, and/or an out of date debian?
<0> if it's trying to install the older vsftpd
<3> I downloaded the .deb from : http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/vsftpd
<2> i'll let you deal with this one Napta :P
<3> sorry to be a pain!
<0> AndrewOC: pastebin.com your /etc/apt/sources.list and the error you get when you install the deb (and the steps you take to install it)
<3> install : http://pastebin.ca/86926
<3> sources : http://pastebin.ca/86929
<0> are you using sarge?
<3> v3 in /etc/debian_version
<0> woody!
<0> AndrewOC: its way too old and needs upgrading to 3.1 man
<0> thats why
<3> I know, but this is a test server that's the same as the one in the field that I have to do a dry run on before I install vsftp on
<2> [22:24] <2> sarge has v2.0.3, sounds like you're running an older version of debian <--- 10mins ago :P
<0> haha, I didn't see that
<0> go eat your birthday cake :p
<5> AndrewOC: 2 options i bet, update to sarge or run the older version of vsftpd, sorry 3 maybe try backport but then im still not awake so what do i konw
<2> AndrewOC, edit /etc/apt/sources.list replace 'woody' with 'stable', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and you're at the newer version of debian
<2> you'll then have vsftpd 2.0.3
<3> if it were a .x version out I wouldn't worry but I was just concerned that it was a whole version number out. Don't think I can upgrade the one in the field as that's live and can't afford for it to "go down"
<0> production box ?
<4> lol
<4> you dont take care of your production boxes?
<4> zzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
<3> will probably stick with the v1.x - thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it - and ferro, many happy returns
<2> if you're production box is running woody, you have issues. Fix it, upgrade, do it now
<0> You should check for any vulnerabilities with it.
<2> you're running an unsupported version of debian, no fixes, no upgrades, no security updates
<4> if its woody it DOES have a lot of vulnerabilities
<5> AndrewOC: you may have no choice support for woody ends shortly iirc
<3> 's not my "job" to look after these things - will p*** your comments on to those in the know!
<4> its already unsupported
<4> then your company has problems
<0> p*** them on to his boss
<5> nagual: it is? like i said what do i know :)
<0> get them fired
<2> like i said, it's a quick edit of a config file and an upgrade command
<0> ;)
<3> is that likely to screw anything else runnig (there's a tomcat server and a postgres install on there)
<4> no but it can happen
<2> your security line in the sources.list file won't work either, the line is for 'stable' and the current stable is 'sarge', but you're running a 'woody' system
<3> is there something with apt that you can do similar to with up2date on centos where you can say "ignore all updates to this package" or "don't install anything that screws with config files"
<2> yes
<2> it's called pinning a package
<3> great I will copy this conversation to my IT guy here (who I'm helping out with this ftp thing btw)
<2> http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin
<3> thx again
<2> np, he may have to check the configs of the newly installed packages for system critical tasks (e.g apache)
<3> c ya
<0> they're not very helpful, are they?
<0> "hello, my cable modem is down" ok, what is your IP?
<0> 0.0.0.0
<0> ok.. i'm going to attempt to reboot your modem
<0> but er, there is no power?
<0> "don't worry we can remotely connect"
<0> "hah, alright"
<0> "hrm, I will need to book a technician" can you confirm your IP address again?
<0> sure
<0> 0.0.0.0
<5> Napta: i like it when you can hear them turning pages in the script too
<0> haha
<6> lol
<0> I hang up, call them back
<0> get another guy
<6> indeed
<0> who goes
<7> Ronin`, it's like the choose your own adventure books
<0> "oh yeah, theres an outage - service will be restored shortly"
<0> simple!
<0> RedACE: hahaha
<6> i've sent them a mail about reverse dns, they'll need weeks to figure out what that is
<7> Napta, people in call centers are idiots
<0> aye, 4 weeks if you say "PTR"
<6> i said PTR, twice
<6> :<
<0> damn!
<7> first thing to do after they've gone through their introduction stuff and getting your info is to ask to be escalated to the next level of support
<5> RedACE: exactly
<0> ISPs could save a fortune if they let users troubleshoot their own problems!
<6> why dont they put the mechanics on right away, those call center noobs aren't helping anyone
<0> cut out the helpdesk
<6> if ISPs are gonna do that, i'm gonna open a computer shop
<0> haha
<6> cuz ppl always buy new things when they break down
<0> and buy some bolt cutters?
<0> I need something to buy!
<0> suggestions!
<6> i need money to buy :(
<7> Napta, an RC plane or helicopter?
<0> I fancied a radio scanner
<0> RedACE: oooh yes!
<6> I need new headphones for my phone
<6> an RC fuel-powered car!
<0> I'm waiting for sony to bring out this new phone
<0> w710 iirc
<6> aka Qtek 9100
<0> cool
<0> I already have a pda that I don't use :(
<6> too bad it's Windows :(
<0> time to pay thinkgeek a visit!
<0> yarr
<6> g1
<0> or www.adultdvds.co.uk
<0> one of them
<6> hmm
<0> hrm, tabbed browser.. I'll visit both
<6> :D
<0> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/8212/ this looks very interesting
<6> true
<6> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/755e/
<0> http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/8698/
<0> whoa!
<6> cool, usb!
<0> Tsunami: won't work in uk :(
<0> I'd spend my time walking into electronic stores :D
<6> :D
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