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<0> err, maybe...
<0> punani: php5 ?
<1> extra, extra, read all about it, php5 is http://www.dotdeb.org or get sources and compile. Sarge doesnt provide official php5 modules.
<0> check that site
<2> http://www.dotdeb.org?
<3> Tengil: ok then just install openvpn deb pkg fix the conf put the keys in the right place and your home free
<0> yeah
<2> kk ill try...
<0> it has (unofficial) php5 repositories for debian sarge.
<4> loke: yeah but when/how where do i need to type that remote line
<3> no no thats the command on your localhost
<2> ok.. thanks =)
<3> openvpn uses the same daemon on clients ans servers
<3> and even
<0> W3p: a word of advice though. you might run in to some problems (though those repositories are well tested), and if you do, people on this chanel might not want to help you as you're no longer using official packages (ie: be overly polite if you mess up beyond this point ;)
<4> ok when i got the keys and run openvpn in init.d i will get something up where i can connect to my ws?
<2> i tried "apt-get install php5" with no success...
<3> what you will get is a tun0 network interface witch you can use in anyway you see fit
<2> and i added those lines in sourses.list
<4> loke: yeah i succeded in getting up a tun0 interface with another vpn thing but how do i use it to remote desktop?
<2> Kristian: Do u know when there will be an official php5 module for my distro?
<3> Tengil: well before I promise you anything the thing with openvpn is that dependent on your localsysadmin isnt anal and just allowing server-client connections but accually has turned on client-client
<3> and that he & she pushes the right routes
<3> its just as any nic without propper routes its almost useless
<4> yeah but if its working im doing what?
<3> yeah
<3> then your ws would be as if you laid your feets on it
<3> there arent any limits within openvpn that would stop that
<4> but how will i get a windows with my ws desktop in it. what command do i need to run to get to that?
<3> what do you run on your ws _
<4> ms xp
<3> remote desktop would work
<2> should i install php4 instead??
<3> so would vnc
<2> it says (when trying to download php 5: W: Couldn't stat source package list
<4> oh
<4> so i vnc or remote desktop to the internal ip of my workstation ?
<3> its only 8h since I ran a windows box with remote desktop over openvpn
<4> thats the part i never understood heh
<3> think of it as nat
<3> you create your own internal network
<3> that will work just as if you were on the lan side of the firewall
<3> u realy should do some reading on openvpn.net
<4> thanks for all the info
<4> it does work from windows anyways now. i booted up into that for a second
<3> aah well I admin openvpn and realy like it
<3> a openvpn network that is
<4> yeah i just have to see if i can get the keys from the admin
<3> well imho it should be in thier interest
<3> ipsec is a bitch while openvpn is kinda nice
<0> W3p: for sarge: never, but etch allready has them (the next debian stable, supposed to be released by the end of the year)
<0> I say supposed because debian has a history of delayed releases
<2> so what is etch agai?
<2> a new distro?
<0> no
<0> it's the current debian testing
<0> or future debian 3.2 I belive
<0> though don't quote me on that version number...
<2> by the way, ive installed php4, and done some configurations in the httpd.conf file for apache, how do i restart the apache server? In other words, how do i kill a process, and how do i start it again
<0> well, you restart apache by /etc/init.d/apache restart
<2> ive done something with ... -1, but dont recall what and how
<5> god I love debian
<2> oh ok thanks again :) just let me know if i ask to many questions =)
<5> I just need the repository link to dl with apt-get in order to get superkaramba
<0> W3p: hehe, no problem.
<2> but should i use apache restart if im currently running apache 2?
<2> shouldnt i write <path>/apache2 restart?
<0> if apache2 is there, sure
<2> kk both of them are...
<2> dont know why tho.. i did the apt-get remove apache command..
<0> well, it's only a script to start/stop the daemon, it's not the actual binary
<2> well apache2 restart didnt work :s
<2> kk
<2> apache restart doesnt work either...
<0> try : apache2ctl restart
<2> well my apache server is down for sure; the internet page doesnt exist any more...
<2> kk
<0> I'm a bit rusty on the details of how apache2 works now adays... haven't worked much with webservers the last few years
<2> why the ctl extension?
<2> command not found..
<6> apache and apache2 use a utility called apachectl
<6> to control it
<6> apachectl restart
<2> oh..
<2> ill try without the 2 (btw the internet page is up.. just me messing with the url..)
<2> command not found
<2> same message
<6> check your path
<6> you will have it
<2> /etc/init.d$
<6> find / -name "apachectl"
<7> which apachectl
<7> :P
<2> what does that command do? (wanna learn :P heehe)
<7> or updatedb && locate apachectl
<6> which will search a patch
<6> er
<6> path
<2> ill try the find command..
<2> but whats the difference between find and locate btw..?
<6> it should be in your $PATH variable
<6> W3p: read the man pages
<8> locate has a database ,once its updated its quicker, compare to the windows search index
<2> thanks..
<2> when i installed apache, i understood that /www/ is the folder in which my websites is stored..
<2> why exactly www? can i change this in the httd.conf file?
<9> yes
<9> and fyi its /var/www
<2> fyi?
<1> hmm... fyi is For Your Information
<2> kk
<2> /usr/sbin --> thats where i found the apache2ctl file..
<2> who come?
<2> how *
<0> all root-only tools are usually located in /sbin/ or /usr/sbin/
<2> kk
<0> and I am thinking you became root with "su", not "su - " ?
<2> ??
<1> W3p: wish i knew
<0> how did you login as root ?
<0> because /usr/sbin/ is in root's PATH, but only if it's a real login shell or you use su - (not if you just use su, without the -)
<2> i use the "sudo su" command..
<2> someone told me to do that..
<0> urg
<2> a friend of mine i think..
<0> kill your friend
<0> he's evil
<2> what does that do?
<2> why?
<0> err, I just don't like sudo, to put it mildly
<2> how come?
<0> well, alot of people here disagree with me, but I feel it's beeing misused
<0> in 9 out of 10 cases where people use sudo...
<2> oh ok.. well nothing i can do about it now :P
<0> hehe
<2> so whats the difference between su and su- then?
<2> or su -
<7> one inherits root's env, the other doesnt
<2> env?
<7> environment
<2> oh ok..
<0> stuff like PATH
<2> but hey, i tried the apache2ctl restart command.. it didnt work
<2> in the sbin folder
<2> or dir
<7> apachectl has a configtest parameter
<7> :P
<2> command not found
<0> type su -
<2> which means?
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