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<0> that means rza doesnt like it btw
<0> we=rza
<1> hello
<1> anybody on ?
<2> i have a question not related to debian. anyone use dd-wrt?
<1> is noone here
<1> :(
<3> punani: anyone here?
<4> from memory, anyone here is rza you must be retarded, there are at least 100 other people here
<5> yo rza
<5> is there anything else you can think of that might be of use in getting networking up and running ?
<2> what sort of networking
<5> bridged
<5> via DHCP
<5> any ideas?
<4> Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of rutabagas, a little K-Y jelly, and 5 or 6 ***-crazed kittens. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours!



<2> heh
<5> punani no, take it to #maniac***
<4> i don't know, neilbucan
<5> hmm
<6> evenin' can someone apt-cache search envy24control and tell me if its in stable?
<7> need to update my repos
<7> ~# apt-cache search envy24control
<7> #
<7> nope
<6> hmmm
<6> try envy
<6> used to be, first found it on a deb site
<8> graz, http://packages.debian.org
<6> thanks war, thanks avtobiff, I'll take a look
<8> graz, np
<6> alsa-tools-gui, ok
<6> cheers
<9> whereis the sshd access log ?
<10> /var/log/auth.log ?
<10> well failed anyway
<11> can anyone tell me that they've honestly watched a movie on an ipod video and enjoyed the screen size ?
<12> the screen size is ideal for very small people
<12> especially very young, impressionable children
<13> ha
<14> is it possible to get a verion of the linux-source package with an older kernel (say 2.6.17), since there are still unresolved issues with 2.6.18?
<15> hey fellas.. i dont suppose anyone here has tried putting debian on a usb flashdrive and booting off it?
<16> hey bros anyone have installed a hdd on an existing hdd and run raid on it without destroying any data on the first hdd
<14> raid between the 2?
<16> yea
<14> i am not sure that is possible
<16> its not possible?
<14> at the very least, it is not typical
<14> hardware raid or software raid?
<16> software raid
<12> you can take the second drive and incorporate it into a RAID1 array with one drive missing. Then, you can copy the data over from the first drive. Finally, you can incorporate the first drive into the RAID1 array.
<14> might have a chance then
<17> you want to copy the data from drive1 to drive2 and then have them mirrored?
<14> yeah that method should work
<12> I have seen a how to for converting / to RAID1. Try googling for / and RAID1
<17> you have to say which raid you want
<16> yes souljah
<17> so you want mirroring
<16> yeap
<17> aka RAID 1
<17> to google.!
<16> yeap
<16> yea!! goggling it now
<14> any idea when etch will be released (1 week, 1 month, 1 year?)
<12> whoa. Don't goggle!
<17> you never know with debian :)
<14> well i starting running it, but yesterday i read the chrismas message about file systme instability and now i am worried
<14> the problem is some netfilter patches i need will not apply over 2.6.8, so neither alternative is that appealing
<17> instability on etch?
<17> rebuild your kernel
<17> 2.6.19.1
<14> you know which bug i am talking about?
<17> nope
<14> the mm/msync thing
<14> it may be present in 2.6.19 also, i am not sure
<17> got a link?
<14> one moment



<14> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg00008.html | mention of it here
<14> let me find the bug report
<14> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401006
<18> hi
<17> hmm
<18> anyyone have some time over to help a, not so stupid debianuser
<14> souljah: hm, or maybe this bug is not in 2.6.18-7? only 2.6.18-8?
<14> in any case, i do not seem to be experiencing it
<17> I have experienced the exact example as the bug report
<17> running 2.6.19
<14> well there you go then
<17> I just hadn't used rtorrent before, so I didn't care
<17> I restarted the transfer and it finished properly
<14> hm
<17> so I'm not worried
<14> well i am building a new server right now, so i am trying to decide on the best course of action
<14> is there a way i can get the 2.6.17 version of the linux-source package?
<17> the purpose will help you decide
<17> what is the purpose of this new server
<17> why do you need the linux-source package
<17> just download the source
<10> to have excerpts from the codebase embroidered on my shirt
<18> well im not stupid
<18> i just keep forgetting things
<18> like were a petictulere file is or whatever
<14> souljah: i dont need the package, thats just the way i have been doing it before
<17> gotcha
<18> took me 1 week of scratching my head to find route
<17> try ftp.kernel.org:pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.17.tar.gz :)
<14> souljah: i would like the debian-patched source though
<18> thats the problem with with debian, u get it working, and twhen it stops working, u never forget how u fixed it in the first place
<14> meglaw: it doesnt stop working..
<14> souljah: the other question, is if i were to use 2.6.17, should i use it with sarge or etch packages?
<10> its like the energizer bunny
<10> it keeps going and going and going and going....
<10> until you blow it away with a 12 guage shotgun!
<17> Ouroboros: depends on the servers purpose
<10> (or your hardware fails, which ever is more likely to happen)
<17> sarge you know is stable
<10> didnt etch get frozen or was that a rumor?
<17> so if you need stability, go with sarge and don't second guess it
<17> Skiz: it did
<17> but there are still some nasty buggers to be dealt with
<10> indeed, well at least there arent more coming in =)
<17> true
<14> souljah: i am fine with sarge, but i need a newer kernel than that
<18> Ouroboros:, hardware fails. :)
<10> etch has been pretty kind to me since its inception. on occasion I deploy with it for production use due to libs, etc.
<11> Linux blackrhino 2.2.1 #1 Wed Nov 14 18:28:00 JST 2001 mips unknown
<17> Ouroboros: I have a sarge box running 2.6.19.1 :)
<10> but yes if its mission critical use sarge.
<18> i just did a reinstall
<11> I installed sarge, and stuck an older kernel in
<11> for ****s and giggles
<14> heh
<18> and somehow, it scred up how nics were configured
<14> meglaw: yeah it does that
<10> 2.6 and 2.4 switch interface #'s
<18> so i did a reinstall, becous i dont know how to fix it, and nobody whould help me
<10> eth0 <-> eth1 in my experience
<14> meglaw: there is a rather lengthy explanation on options on how to fix that issue somewhere
<18> still got errors when trying to emulate anothher nic
<11> maybe you should help yourself
<11> or try atleast
<14> i cant remember how i fixed that actually
<19> you guys should take notes
<18> well, for one thing, i read manpages and howto's b4 i ask questions.
<14> oh right
<18> Skiz: , how? erere?
<14> i just put the 2 NICs into /etc/modules in the right order
<10> how what? interfaces?
<19> crazy....
<14> thats only 1 of many methods that will work though
<10> edit /etc/network/interfaces with them both down and swap eth0 for eth1


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