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<0> hey nagual
<1> tjena
<1> synd att din tjej bestmde att vi inte fick ses
<1> hade varit kul och tagit en fika eller nt
<1> innan du drog till .br
<1> hm
<1> and in english that means
<1> im going to bed now
<1> nn
<2> english por favor
<3> nn
<4> do program like say firefox have to be run in x? like win apps?
<5> yes, but x server and client can be 2 different machines
<5> since its all network based
<4> ohh ok
<4> if i want to log in from win?
<5> you can install cygwin on windows, start an xserver there, then start a linux application on another box and have the window on your win desktop
<5> thats what you mean?
<4> yeah
<4> just like remote desktop
<5> yes,you can
<4> thats kool too
<4> i just installed firefox and started xfce how do i load firefox up?
<5> start an xterm and type it
<5> if there is no menu
<4> Also what i really need to know is can you make the default windows + dialogs smaller?
<4> k
<5> i dont know about xfce
<4> i have xterm
<4> ohh about the 2nd
<4> yep its loading..
<4> all works, bbl
<6> ls
<6> err
<6> wrong window :X
<6> can anyone help me with my network problem that im still having?
<7> Is anyone here? I'm having a major major majory crisis and need help. I've lost data to no fault of my own. Linux crashed and my ENTIRE document is gone... its just gone! Yes I saved because I had worked on it for a while now... I saved several different types as I have been working on it progresivly. The computer crashed and upon reboot the file was completely emtpy... even the backup tilda file was empty!
<8> if i use "sendmail" what configuration file do i need to edit
<9> the one called RTFM.conf
<6> har.
<6> ive read that one a few times
<9> if you even don't know how to START to configure sendmail ... dude, you're in for a ride
<6> heh
<6> Radiance..know anything about why I cant connect a network adapter to the internet?
<9> not sure, but if you get a bit more vague i might know bud
<6> heh
<6> well
<9> punani: ask ?
<10> If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks!
<6> so I have a debian box, with 1 network adapter, it grabs an ip address from the dhcp router, sees the domain and the right gateway, yet cant connect to the outside internet...I cant ssh into it becasue I cant finsih my install of debian becasue I cant resolve any of the apt sources
<6> there are other machines on this same router using dhcp
<6> I can ping the router and the router can ping that computer
<6> ip is in range, netmask is in range.
<6> netstat -rn looks ok
<11> my laptop will not connect to the access point via wpa
<11> it's weird though because my desktop will
<11> it might be because my desktop is using madwifi drivers for ath
<11> and the laptop is prism54
<8> sometimes RTFM isnt efficient, for instance, what if you want to create a simple program that says hello world, do you need to learn the whole language? no..
<9> peters3, yes you dumb ****
<11> you just need to cout <<
<6> peter3: that was a horrible answer.
<11> err printf
<11> err print "";
<6> what about console.write?
<6> heh
<11> print "hello world \n";
<11> echo
<9> if you want to drive to the supermarket only ... you think you don't need a drivers license ? :)
<8> why learn the whole ****ing language if you only need to write "hello world"
<6> peter3: I know if you google that question it will pop up instantly, ill even help you out, "debian sendmail config"
<11> just copy and past
<11> debug
<11> err copy/paste
<11> debug
<11> that's how the pros do it
<9> peters3, because ppl with your attitude are the cause of insecure code, that's why mate
<11> google hello world example code
<11> copy/paste
<6> radiance: was the description of my problem good enough?
<9> adiosk8, those other machines .. they can get to the internet ?
<8> Radiance: im just giving an example, i actually have learned very many programming languages in their entirety, i guess a bad example :P
<11> i love playing around with sourceforge projects
<11> and i don't even know how to program
<8> <9> if you even don't know how to START to configure sendmail ... dude, you're in for a ride
<11> but i am an expert at copy and pasting
<8> thats basically ALL i needed to know^
<6> raidance: yes...im on one of them right now
<11> perl > *
<9> peters3, i advise postfix anyway
<9> also the documentation on the postfix site is excellent btw
<11> as opposed to sendmail
<11> hell with postfix you don't have to read any docs
<11> specially with debian
<11> it just works
<8> haha
<9> adiosk8, when you do a traceroute to www.cnn.com it stops at the router ?
<11> though exim is cool too
<11> why not use exim?
<9> exim is also very nice
<6> radiance traceroute isnt installed yet...couldnt finish the install
<9> if you're not going to process huge amounts of mail and such exim will do just fine
<8> im thinking about exim
<8> im looking at that now :P
<9> adiosk8, sounds like a messed up install, can't complete it ?
<6> its a net install
<6> but it doesnt help when it cant connect to the internet
<9> hmm
<11> back in 00' i ran a whole isp with 200+ users with exim
<9> yeah that's ok for exim
<11> really easy to use
<9> quite nice anyway
<11> when i stepped in and took over everything was setup in exim and i didn't know exim for ****
<11> straight forward config files
<9> adiosk8, might be your resolv.conf
<9> but wait, you can't even ping a raw ip ?
<11> now i tried to set up qmail
<11> that was a nightmare
<11> man i spent months banging my head
<6> radiance I think im just going to plug my internet connection directly into it, finsih the install and then connect it to the network
<6> bbl
<11> then spent 30minutes compiling and setting up postfix
<11> and was off and running
<9> yeah good idea, so it gets you at least up and running
<11> ever since then i use postfix for everything
<9> kinda sux to start troubleshooting with a half install :)
<9> yeah postfix can be easily used for simple to enterprise level mail processing
<11> i want to know why this laptop won't connect to the wpa ap
<11> i wonder if i need to load encryption modules
<11> or does the wpa_supplicant do that automatically?
<9> i keep it on the hostap drivers in the vanilla kernel
<9> you can connect to an AP with wep ?
<11> ohh i haven't tried wep
<9> or is it only wpa which is not working ?
<11> but it will connect open
<9> wep is alot easier
<9> try first to see if wep is working
<11> bah i crack wep with my eyes closed
<9> if that is working then you only need to focus on the wpa config/tool
<11> might as well be open
<11> the wpa is already working though with other machines
<9> if wep refuses also to work then you might need to look again at your drivers
<11> debian boxes and the like
<9> yeah not talking about the AP, just your laptop with that specific card and config
<11> my laptop is setup almost the same as my desktop
<11> hrmm well there is some modules loaded on the desktop
<11> that aren't on the laptop
<11> wlan 169436 6 wlan_tkip,wlan_ccmp,wlan_scan_sta,ath_pci,ath_ra
<11> there's no wlan_tkip and stuff like that
<11> i think that is all madwifi stuff
<11> should i load madwifi on the laptop?
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