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<0> So, if I have an old laptop that I'm gonna put debian on, is it better to use the 2.4 or 2.6 kernel?
<1> depends on how old it is
<0> pentium
<2> a 2.6 will do fine :-)
<2> but a 2.4 too on an oldy
<0> uh, is that an answer? you sound like a politician.
<3> sup ja'll?
<4> woohoo. 55.4Mb (8hrs of music) is the most my ipod has ever stored
<4> and people wonder why I have a 512mb shuffle and not a 60gb video thing
<5> wtf?
<6> what the **** is wtf
<5> thats less than 128kbps
<4> they're probably a low bit-rate
<5> i got 22hours takin up 1.6gigs
<4> 16kbps
<4> pj33r



<1> napta listens to talk radio
<5> rarw
<4> tchang: you know it ;)
<7> thats just mp3's. no flac or ogg.
<8> sure buddy
<7> ...
<7> dont make me mail lizsac < ls -lR /home/jcl/mp3 :)
<7> heh
<4> night guns. interview tomorrow:D
<4> ping me luck
<4> err
<7> later
<4> guns..
<4> I'm just all whacky tonight
<7> i figured you were referring to my biceps
<4> s/guns/guys ;)
<7> i like guns better
<4> s/guys/guns
<7> good luck with the interview :)
<8> ok
<9> hi guys im pretty new to debian im using the net installer and when it lists packages its prefixed with either pIA or pi... whats the diff?
<10> I can't recall, but + selects and - de-selects
<10> also, <enter> gives you more info, and q puts you back in the master list.
<9> ok... i exited out by accident and now im at command line prompt
<9> how do i bring up that aptget program
<9> is that what its called?
<10> aptitude
<10> try that.^^ I think that may do it
<9> yep perfect... ok sry but im just messing around and i went to editors and went to install nano so now i have its description page up from there what do i hit to install it and its dependencies?
<10> q
<10> and then +
<9> ok found the help page also... so if i want to install gcc
<9> i get to gcc and i hit +/- but nothing happens if i hit enter it brings me to a description is there a short cut key to add a package and all its dependicies?
<9> is apt and aptitude the same thing?
<7> no
<11> Two different tools to do the same thing, but no
<7> aptitude is a front end to apt/dpkg
<11> but you can also replace apt-get install with aptitude install, and apt-cache search with aptitude search, etc
<11> apt-get --purge remove and aptitude purge
<11> and so on
<11> personally I like aptitude better, but never use it's ncurses interface :)
<9> heres the thing i boot aptitude and i can list the packages under not installed packages
<7> you boot aptitude?
<9> run aptitude
<7> ah. i figured aptitude had become something like emacs...
<7> zing!
<9> w/e but once i do... i list the not installed packages they are all maked with a single P i try to mark it with + and nothing happens
<9> am i supposed to be picking the apps i want from the not installed list?
<7> wish i could help you but i only use apt-get and apt-cache
<7> apt-cache search firefox
<7> apt-get install mozilla-firefox
<7> stuff like that
<11> thun anything in the not installed list, is .... not installed
<11> so yeah, if you want to install something, pick it from the not installed list
<11> if it's in the installed list ... you guessed it, it's installed already
<9> i do koro but when i hit the + key nothing happens
<9> one sec ill just use apt-get
<9> seems to be responding
<11> whatever works :)



<9> woah very cool
<9> so much better than compiling
<9> no apt-get for mysql :(
<9> ?
<7> apt-cache search mysql
<12> apt-cache search mysql
<12> oops
<7> :)
<7> also look at "apt-cache show <blah>", "apt-get update", "apt-get upgrade", etc.
<7> man apt-cache, man apt-get
<9> ty
<7> that wasnt too bright
<1> hahaha
<2> lol bots have their own will
<7> i cant fix it from here
<7> they dont know me at this mask
<2> some one will sooner or later hehe
<2> same here
<7> oh it will expire on its own
<7> teach kristian a lesson i suppose :P
<9> ok im trying to add the ntfs filesys to the kernel... apt search is showing a bunch of ntfs access libs but not the kernel one... is it called something else
<9> i just want to mount an ntfs disk
<13> HI, ANYONE knows which is the best programm for emulate PS2 in a pentium 133?
<2> billeh ... tried google ?
<13> yes :0(
<2> thun, you mean the module ? (***uming debianized kernel)
<9> yes rad
<9> but it seems its already compiled in the most basic of kernels
<9> i checked under /proc/filesystem and ntfs wasn't listed
<9> but it just mounted it no problem at all
<2> so what's the problem if it mounts fine ? hehe
<2> you can read the ntfs partition/hd ?
<9> lol well no problem now heh... i didn't even try to mount it ***umed i had to load the ntfs mod
<9> but yah it read it no problem
<9> didn't know that was part of the debian kernel by defualt
<14> wow, someone wants to emulate PS2 with a pentium 133
<14> I want to emulate a formula 1 race car with a lada.
<15> hello can anyone please help set up my sound?
<15> it says /dev/dsp cannot be opened . . . hmmm
<11> lsod |grep dsp
<15> what?
<15> that gets nothing
<11> set your sound system up then :)
<15> awww . . ???
<15> please
<15> i just installed this
<11> check for a sound howto on debianadministraion.org
<11> I think that's the link
<11> just google for debian alsa
<15> well of course i've been trying
<16> I seem to be having some fontpath errors with xserver-org packages. Namely TTF, Type1 and CID. Did I not install some font packages?
<14> we only support stable here, but I'd bet your font paths are changed if you updated to x.org; you need to update your x-server configuration to match the new paths
<16> hrmm
<16> alright
<17> which is the standard bind or dns server i should use if im gonna install with apt-get?
<18> peace to all i back later :
<9> when you use apt-get remove blah, how do you tell it to remove all of blah's depenencies
<19> thun, you use something like 'deborphan'
<19> btw thun, one client per person in the channel
<9> oh sry... will you kick thun22
<14> people should really use aptitude instead of apt-get
<14> deborphan can never keep up with what's really needed and whats not
<14> autorejoin rulez :)
<20> what the hell? =)
<20> ferro: are you using stable? =)
<19> yes, on some machines
<20> workstation with stable? :)
<20> or just servers/routers/firewalls?
<19> servers/firewalls/routers
<20> ok
<19> i use ubuntu as my desktop atm, i was using debian sid w/ experimental packages before that
<9> lol forgot i had autorejoin on that box
<20> iam using stable on my workstation too, and on my router, because unstable and etch is the most time broken =)
<20> why ubuntu? :o)


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