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<Deryl> Frustrated with the time consuming process required to perform manual business spreadsheet calculations, Harvard MBA student Dan Bricklin develops a new computer program to edit, delete, and recalculate numbers in a digital spreadsheet format. The result is a simple, elegant solution to an age-old problem. By the fall of 1979, the VisiCalc spreadsheet program is available for Apple II, TRS-80, Commodore PET, and Atari 800 computers and sells for $100.
<KristianL> wow....
<KristianL> thunderbird crashed not only my client, but apparantly also the nfs&imap server
<KristianL> that's amazing
<KristianL> I wonder what the hell happened
<|Slurpee|> how did your client manage that ?
<|Slurpee|> are your sure your client didnt just crash after the server went down ?
<KristianL> nope :)
<KristianL> let me rephrase
<KristianL> "when I started thunderbird, both my workstation AND nfs/imap server crashed"
<|Slurpee|> i use thunderbird religously
<|Slurpee|> and ive never heard of that
<KristianL> I have a feeling the sinner is nfs
<peder_> How do I chroot into /dev/hdd2 ?
<war--> mount it somewhere
<war--> and chroot /mountpoint
<peder_> just chroot /mnt/temp1 /bin/bash ?
<rojohse> Guys, im trying to get my reverse zones correct. Does this look right? my SMTP server is blocking me after i set it up to drop non-reversing DNS's.
<rojohse> http://pastebin.ca/160123
<rojohse> not working for me
<peder_> Resolved mail.angletonpd.net to 24.72.181.251
<war--> peder_: ya.
<peder_> war--; I am using sysresccd to recover my system, but when I try to chroot I get this error: chroot; cannot run command '/bin/bash': Exec format error
<rojohse> hmm...
<war--> peder_: it means its corrupted then
<rojohse> wouldnt the reverse be something else
<war--> peder_: you cannot chroot() into a broken environment
<rojohse> like, 251.181.72.24.angletonpd.net
<KristianL> I'm not familiar with sysresccd ... what kind of system are you currently running (kernel) and what kind of system are you attempting to recover ?
<peder_> rojohse- doesnt resolve.
<rojohse> that was my question
<awol> peder_: have you run fsck on affected partitions first? and mounted them?
<peder_> KristianL- Linux sysresccd 2.6.16.10-fd24 (looks like gentoo) ..I am trying to recover a debian sarge on amd64
<KristianL> debian-amd64 ?
<peder_> awol- havent ran fsck no, but I have mountet it. Then umount and run fsck and remount?
<peder_> KristianL- yes
<KristianL> then that explains it.
<KristianL> your bash binary is compiled for 64 bit, your kernel isn't.
<peder_> so I cant recover?
<KristianL> not like that, anyway.
<war--> peder_: use a 64bit live cd
<awol> ya'd need a 6 bit rescue kernel
<war--> peder_: I think there is 1 or 2 on distrowatch
<awol> erm 64 bit
<war--> but they are RARE
<KristianL> damn, 6bit? that's harsh :P
<peder_> Oh.. I see.
<awol> my key is playing up.... going awol on me
<awol> erm 4 key lol
<peder_> All I need to do is to install grub in mbr.. So I need a 64bit livecd?
<war--> awol , I am curious btw what do you do ?
<awol> peder_: ubuntu has a 64 bit live cd
<war--> peder_: that would be a start
<awol> war--: not a lot.... answer silly Q's on irc mostly
<KristianL> rojohse: err, that pastebin isn't a reverse zone...
<war--> awol: who pays for you to live? age? :P
<awol> war--: welfare barely keeps me alive....
<awol> i'm too old to get a job....
<war--> how old? dang
<awol> only young grads get the IT jobs...
<peder_> awol- where do i find it?
<awol> and i dont want to drive a bus
<spooky> start your own consulting firm
<awol> peder_: www.ubuntu.com would be a good start
<KristianL> err, folks ?
<KristianL> he doesn't need a 64bit livecd to run grub
<awol> KristianL: point taken
<awol> peder_: try grub-install /dev/hdx (where x is usually a)
<awol> ya may need another parameter or two... i dont use grub much.... i'm a lilo kinda guy
<awol> info grub has all the details
<KristianL> I'm a lilo-guy myself :)
<awol> not as pretty... but simple to fool with
<KristianL> I find it pretty
<peder_> grub-install from my sysresccd?
<awol> well it works for me
<KristianL> simplicity is beauty in my eyes :)
<awol> i agree
<recar> everyone was a lilo guy, untill they discovered grub ;)
<KristianL> recar: not true.
<awol> peder_: yeah..... that should have it.... ymmv
<KristianL> recar: I find grub to be quite bloated and have a lot of features that are wasted. Most of which are related to troubleshooting
<Radiance> i like lilo, simple and quick for what i usually need :)
<KristianL> I need my boot loader to load my boot-system, not tie my shoe laces, make my lunch and comb my hair...
<recar> grub does that ? sweet ;)
<KristianL> hmm
<KristianL> wonder what it takes to get xmms to understand that my joystick will never give negative axis-values
<KristianL> I can only bind right/down to it, as those increase the value....
<KristianL> it never detects up/left
<rojohse> Anyone good with bind9 here?
<Deryl> ?? guru hunt
<punani> Deryl: bugger all, i dunno
<Deryl> ?? guruhunting
<punani> Deryl: wish i knew
<Deryl> ****er
<Deryl> ?? info guru
<punani> Deryl: i don't know
<Deryl> ?? keyword guru
<punani> Deryl: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
<Deryl> bite me bitch
<Deryl> seems i've forgotten how to search the keywords for matches
<Deryl> Don't guru hunt with Does anyone know X, or ask if you can ask. Just ask your question and roll with it.
<rojohse> im trying to get my reverse zones correct. Does this look right? my SMTP server is blocking me after i set it up to drop non-reversing DNS's.
<rojohse> http://pastebin.ca/160123
<Deryl> i doubt you have reverse control if it's blocking
<rojohse> sorry, i have a setting on the SMTP server to check for reversing dynamic dns's
<rojohse> and, since it doesnt reverse properly/at all, it bouncing my request
<rojohse> it/s/its
<KristianL> no, that does not look right. that's not even a reverse zone.
<Deryl> hehe let me look at the URL
<Deryl> haha nope, sure isn't! :)
<KristianL> I asked you about that several minutes ago rojohse ...
<KristianL> well I guess you have a PTR in there, but you don't mix PTR and A's
<rojohse> bad business, eh
<rojohse> so, i need to create a zone file named "251.181.72.24.in-addr.arpa"
<KristianL> err, the filename can be whatever
<Deryl> the ZONE name must be that, not the file
<Deryl> file can be bugsbunnyeatscarrots.arpa
<KristianL> the zone should probably be 181.72.24.in-addr.arpa
<Deryl> doubt he has reverse on the entire block and if they're giving him reverse on a single IP it's most likely via CNAME
<Deryl> in the reverse zone file they have
<rojohse> man, this business plan for this ISP has been a headache from day one.
<rojohse> i doubt it will even let me reverse
<rojohse> i only have 3 ip's static in that block
<rojohse> and this box uses this .251
<KristianL> doubtfull that you have reverse
<rojohse> well, if i add a record, and then get them to AT LEAST CNAME it tommorow, or tuesday, ill be happy
<rojohse> at least i tried
<rojohse> i'd rather do it right, then disable it in the STMPD
<KristianL> speaking of doing it right, I'm hardcoding my joystick calibration values into the xmms joystick plugin :)
<KristianL> pretty nasty
<KristianL> ah well, it worked :)
<Spfy> :)
<KristianL> Radiance: sounds like a gui-related issue to me
<KristianL> in the mozilla-code, that is
<Radiance> yeah that's what i'm thinking too, trying to find out on mailinglists if some one has noticed this problem
<KristianL> I suddenly want to fix the xmms joystick plugin :/
<Radiance> it's a long time ago i connected any joystick to linux :)
<KristianL> it's a long time ago since I connected any joystick at all :)
<KristianL> but I found this cordless thing while cleaning and I figured it would make a nice remote
<KristianL> a little big, but still
<KristianL> seems the xmms plugin has been rewritten in 2004 .... but that code isn't half as clean as the original, even though the featurelist is better
<shadowlab> anyone know why my apt-get returns "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" for every package i try to install now? :(
<Deryl> don't double dip
<Deryl> hit one channel at a time and wait for answers before you go to the next one
<Deryl> and it sounds like some package blew up
<Deryl> try doing a dpkg --configure --pending
<KristianL> it sounds like that isn't the entire error message too
<Deryl> something tells me he probably tried to go from one release to another and it died
<KristianL> or that he aborted a package install manually
<shadowlab> doh sorry deryl
<Deryl> KristianL: yep
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