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<0> WHY
<1> 33 C here and it sux :)
<2> yeah its about 25C here
<2> I hate hot weather
<1> me too
<1> it's now official we have a heatwave
<2> Theres a heat wave in the south of uk
<1> but thursday it'll drop to 25 C and on
<2> i'm nice and cool right now, thankfully
<2> last few days were awful
<1> have 2 fans all the time pointed at me that hot it is :)
<3> oh man on the way home
<3> 2 girls soooo checked me out
<3> two pretty little teens
<3> and im 33
<3> i was like 'wtf'
<3> ooh booting ubuntu
<1> lol
<1> nasteh :)
<3> i didnt do anything
<3> it just made me gladder :)
<3> anyways booting
<3> i just need to make this boot through the windows boot
<3> hopefully that wont be a problem :)
<0> nagual: how goes the ubuntu install
<2> I was trawling the Internet for free cds earlier.
<2> Microsoft tried to charge me $6 for shipping SP2
<2> Sun used to give away free things too :(
<2> Although sdlc-esd.sun.com is giving me 1075.54KB/s sustained. I guess thats something for free :(
<4> I am looking for the smallest debian install that has apt package management, The smallest install I have been able to make is about 150MB, with deleting text files etc. Does anyone have a resurce for small debian based distro with no X just server components. Thx
<2> well
<2> I'm pretty sure you could optimize it further
<2> If you borrow philosophies from distros such as "Damn Small Linux"
<2> remove man pages
<2> remove any headers / src code
<2> remove share'd documentation
<2> recompile a kernel and remove all unneeded bloat
<2> DosOne: dpkg -l, and see what you do not need
<5> dd-wrt runs on 4 MB
<4> i removed man pages, headers and src, - i will check out dpkg -l (I am new to debian pkg management)
<5> they've even got it running on 2 MB now I think
<2> RedACE: nice!
<5> \o/
<5> =^^= meow
<2> My WRT54GS has 32mb of ram if I recall
<2> it's a whore you know :)
<5> not all models have 32 mb
<5> some have as little as 4 MB I think
<2> I know
<2> vxworks is tiny :)
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G
<4> yeah - i have been playing with vmware trying to make a damn small derver package for myself mainly tiny lighttpd, php java mysql server
<5> 8MB is the smallest
<4> I removed all docs from variouys packages etc
<5> DosOne, debian probably isn't the best base for that
<2> indeed
<5> try LFS or DSL
<2> I'm sure you could make it really good though
<2> "universal" and all
<5> Linux From Scratch, Damn Small Linux
<5> or even slackware
<2> DosOne: also, busybox
<2> will replace most of your tools
<4> well i still wanted a distro feel if I wanted to add other pacakges
<4> I looked at busybox and dropbear (ssh replacement)
<2> well theres a fine line :/
<4> yeah i know, this has been more of an academic exercise, I wanted to make small server appliance in vmware that had full functionality
<2> an exercise in over engineering maybe :)
<0> use deadcd
<2> you learn alot about linux buy putting together your own little version
<0> 100mb base with firefox, etc etc
<4> i gotta step away - later
<6> _never_ buy a non-APC ups
<7> I did
<7> and it works fine
<7> nut even supports it
<6> :S
<8> hello
<8> i cant set my keymap to german
<8> how does this work? :(
<8> i choosed it wrong on the install
<8> i tryed to change it in /etc/environment, but it doesnt work
<8> tried
<8> nobody there? :(
<9> yes, I'm around
<8> keymap on the console
<9> I can give you an example of finnish keyboard, which you can probably use as an template
<8> no xserver
<9> yes
<9> hold on
<9> do you want your software to speak german aswell, or just have german layout and english software?
<8> english software, german layout
<9> export LC_CTYPE=fi_FI@euro
<9> here's mine
<9> you probably want de_DE
<9> after that, do dpkg-recongure locales
<9> when doing reconfigure locales, select all the de_ -locales
<9> I'm not sure which are usable for you, but you can't lose if you have them all :)
<8> no, doenst work
<9> then you atleats have all locales for all german speaking countries
<8> doesnt
<9> what doesn't?
<8> keymap
<9> did you do both of the things I told you?
<9> edited /etc/environment and added the line, then dpg-reconfigure locales?
<8> yea
<9> and it said it created the locales?
<8> and relogin
<8> yep
<8> Generating locales...
<8> de_DE.ISO-8859-15@euro... done
<8> and all the other de locales
<9> hold on
<9> do then dpkg-reconfigure console-data
<9> then select keyboard from arch list
<9> and then probably qwertz
<9> (if you germans still use the keyboards with y and z inverted)
<9> and finally select "German"
<9> .. and standard keyboard
<9> it should then say something like "looking for keymap to install"
<9> and your keymap
<9> then relogin and try again
<8> fromarch list? :o)
<8> from arch list een
<8> what does it mean?
<8> never heard about arch lsit
<8> arch list
<9> hmm?
<9> punani: because I have 3 trouts in my ear
<10> APz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
<9> toor-: run dpkg-reconfigure console-data
<8> hihi, works, thanks
<9> that did the trick?
<8> yes
<8> thanks a lot
<9> great job
<9> no problem, happy to help
<8> brb
<8> :)
<8> i have to get wmaker work
<9> I guess that shouldn't be too hard
<9> tho' I personally prefer icewm
<9> started out with twm and used it until gnome 1 was out
<9> then I fell in love with sawfish and gnome's panel
<9> after gnome2 came out, I was mortified
<9> I absolutely hated metacity (which wasn't as configurable and tweakable as sawfish) and everything was buggy as hell
<9> and then I switched to IceWM and been happy eversince
<9> oh, and I ran fluxbox for a while, but icewm was easier to configure for OS/2 feel
<2> you like the OS/2 feel? ;)
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