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<0> F!
<1> M!
<0> what is up?
<1> just coding
<0> sames.
<0> got a deadline tomorrow :(
<1> no sleep for you!
<1> :P
<1> I'm doing c++ these days .. the joy!
<0> nope :(
<0> well it's pretty much done
<0> whatcha doin C++ for?
<1> normal c++, not C++.NET
<1> cuz they wanted to pay me a lot.. so I said yes
<0> yeah, whaffor?
<1> :P



<0> haha
<0> who?
<1> financial trading system
<1> and it has to run on Solaris, Linux, and Windows
<0> sounds like lotsa fun
<1> so there are some nice portability issues
<0> is it just you working on it?
<1> nah, there are 4 other coders
<0> how's that going for you?
<1> but this is a 100% new system
<1> pretty easy.. I can work from home for the time being
<0> cool.
<0> need any more devs? :D
<1> sorry :(
<0> heh
<0> s'ok
<0> i have enough on my plate :(
<0> and this has gotten so messy :(
<1> I like my job.. doing network/protocol dev atm
<1> that's what I love doing
<1> so it's not a job to me :)
<1> but they just pay me heaps
<0> haha
<0> that's awesome
<0> i'd love to do stuff like that (:
<0> :(
<0> http://home.maccasoft.com.au/~brendanm/ :D
<0> working on: http://home.maccasoft.com.au/~brendanm/17 too :)
<1> :P
<0> d:
<0> are you still with your lady friend?
<1> yes
<1> she likes me more now I have a job ;)
<0> hahahaha
<0> do you make more than her now?
<2> hi
<0> hey carlo
<3> hey Brendan
<0> what's up?
<3> Nothing much
<3> debugging
<3> and more debugging
<0> awesome.
<0> i think i prefer lower level programming
<3> :)
<4> ki9a: sorry for being a leakyhead, but what did you say was the method for checking if .net stuff depended on win32 stuff? (pinvoke)
<3> if you ildasm it
<3> and open the metadata node
<3> it should show the references
<3> and pinvoke requirements
<4> okay, right, thanks
<4> will that be for the specific ***embly .dll in question, or will a request against an apps main .exe also show sub-dependencies?
<3> specific
<4> ok tx
<3> lemme know if it works for ya.
<4> hm you mean manifest node`?
<3> es
<4> .module extern Kernel32.dll



<4> guess that's a give-away
<3> yep
<3> :)
<4> it's stuff like that yeh?
<4> didnt see any pinvoke text here
<4> anyhow that was my own .exe .. has some refs to queryperformancemeter or whatever for testing
<3> ah
<3> you could just use that performance timer
<3> I forgot what it was called
<4> yea i know
<4> the one in system.something.something
<3> hah
<4> eh
<4> stopwatch
<4> er no
<3> system.diagnostics.PerformanceCounter
<4> yes thats it
<4> :)
<4> think it wasnt as detailed or something weird .. forgot
<4> but any such .dll dependencies.. can they be hidden by obfuscators etc?
<3> no
<3> you can't obfuscate a win32 dll name
<3> as windows wouldn't be able to find it ;)
<4> yea hehe
<4> well you could grab the externals and do LoadModule instead of putting them as static refs
<4> and encrypt the relocations and whatever
<3> oh yes
<3> but you'd have a link to kernel32
<4> ya
<4> colonel32!
<3> bds is so picky
<3> it can't even load 2.0 dlls ;)
<4> ok well reason why i was wondering was that i was asking the devexpress guys if their stuff worked under mono or not
<4> and they didnt really seem to have a good answer
<4> "To be honest, Mono is interesting, but not even on our radar...we might get
<4> 5 questions like yours every year :-)
<4> "
<4> so i guess ill have to find out myself :P
<3> I'd say "no"
<3> :)
<4> "We test for Windows and cannot provide support for mono - it may work, but
<4> its not something we test against.
<4> "
<4> was what he said first
<4> "may work" doesnt sound like a specific answer
<3> if it has links to kernel32
<4> they must atleast know if they use pinvoke or not ffs :P
<3> you can be sure it won't work
<4> not that i see myself using mono any time soon, but it would be nice to have xplatform anyhow
<3> yeh
<0> bed
<0> nite
<3> laters.
<5> what's the function to check if character is alphabet and in upper case?
<3> if (c >= 'A' && c <= 'Z')
<5> that's not a function
<3> if you want to you can wrap it into it
<5> and it won't work with some special characters
<5> in other languages
<3> ah
<3> that's a different issue
<3> :)
<3> Char.IsUpper then?
<5> yeah thats it, thanks
<6> hi there
<6> if i have a ref cl***, and want a method on it that returns a value by reference. how can I do it.
<6> i have tryed both out and ref but they are not defined in a managed cl***
<6> if i use an array it works
<6> void Change(int a, array<int>^ m)
<6> {
<6> m[0]=a;
<6> }
<6> but with a simple int it doesnt
<3> ^ ??


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