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<0> Oow. getting occupied in here.
<1> its getting empty lol
<1> people keep disconnecting
<0> and reconnecting
<1> dunno its happening in my chan too
<1> ki9a are you affiliated with the ops in C#?
<0> no
<1> thats cool
<1> the ops in that chan are dumb***es
<0> so I heard
<1> if anyone wants to check out a general software engineering channel, check out #softwareengineering
<1> no specific programming languages, its all good
<2> Darkclaw: why're you banned from C# ?
<3> probably spoke positively about something open-source
<2> monad?
<4> 192.168.3.170/29 ... 29 bits network, 3 bits host?
<4> how do i calculate the number of hosts and all that?
<2> ? 2^3 ?
<0> 8?
<2> Macca: google it
<3> cidr basically just tells you how many bits to mask off, so yes, 2^remainder bits
<5> hi there
<5> is the other csharp channel taken over?
<3> just +l'd full i guess
<6> I'm looking for clarification on how I should go about things: I want to have a native compiled binary using windows forms for the GUI and WMI (either the old version or .NET), and my question is if it could be wholly/partly unmanaged, or does it have to be wholly managed?
<6> This is in VC++ (#c++ said to ask here)
<0> Well it's either .NET using Winforms
<0> or it's a C++ using whatever C++ uses for guis
<0> (MFC?)
<0> you can use Managed c++, but that'd still be .NET
<6> Well, since I want to run it without installing, I have to use unmanaged natives, right?
<6> (Sorry, I'm a perl guy, this .NET is all new to me)
<0> you can't use .NET without installing it
<0> winforms is part of .NET
<6> That's what I thought. So no matter how I split the two, if I use Winforms for my GUI, my app will have to have some sort of install procedure.
<0> yes.
<0> you also have to install Perl.
<6> And normally for windows native binaries, one would use MFC to define the GUI?
<0> well I wouldn't use MFC :)
<0> but I don't use c++
<6> What is that other one, WTL?
<0> ATL?
<6> Something like that.
<6> ki9a: Would the following situation be possible: given a computer with the .NET framework installed, can I run my program without having to run setup and install MY program?
<0> well sure
<6> Oh thank God
<0> if you program is based on .net
<0> and .net is installed
<0> all you need to do is run it
<6> I don't have to run the auto-generated setup.exe, right? Just run foo.application?
<6> Sweet!
<6> Here I was, thinking that .NET forces me to run an install program whenever I want to use my program on a new computer.
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