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<0> Too early to tell
<0> have to wait for the OC'ing community to get a hold of them
<1> hmm maybe you're right
<0> Ha! I cannot believe I'm getting excited about an Intel Release!
<1> but i'm still wondering about this 4mb cache
<0> Shame I cannot wait for AMD to get their *** in gear.
<1> i can't believe that there is no differnce
<1> difference
<0> Dude 2 Vs 4 isn't as much as you think, when regarding the OC'ing/FSB difference.
<1> But the difference may be seen in work
<0> Stock Vs Stock, yes. But as said OC'ing+FSB bonus more than well makes up the diff
<1> When you make music it may be important
<0> The diffs are mere seconds.
<0> Like what, 10seconds? No big deal...
<1> In music it is a difference
<0> Plus, with the $100's saved, you can buy the Better ram and OC even more and be more stable at that.
<1> Espesially when you use all these Native Instruments and Steinberg's newest software
<0> So you spend say $360 for the E6600, when the E4300 is released it's going to be around ~$133
<0> That's $227 diff
<0> Now 2GB ram is going to run you around ~$200-50 so that's now E6600 + Ram = $560-610
<1> why 2GB ??
<1> 1gb is not suitable enough ??
<0> that was for example
<0> Now the E4300 $133+$250 = $383
<1> btw isn't it e6300 ??
<0> no
<1> i haven't heard about e4300
<0> 2M version remember
<0> E4300 isn't released yet
<0> So you're talking about a savings of at least ~$230
<1> so what's the difference between e4300 and e6300 ??
<1> e6300 has 2mb cache also
<0> What ever your budget is, you'll get the BEST ram for you money going with the E4300 Vs lesser Ram with the E6600
<0> E4300 has a lower starting multiplier
<0> Thus it runs slower Ghz.
<0> But the lower Multiplier means you get an FSB bonus when you OC.
<1> Rams are cheap nowadays anyway
<0> The higher the multiplier starts, the less FSB you have to work with.
<0> Okay dude, I just trying to save you some money.
<1> i'll think about it
<1> now i should think about some good mainboard
<0> No point in spending $360 Vs $133 chip that can OC Better and outperform the E6600.
<0> You could use that saved $230 for? Mobo, Vid card, Ram, New HD etc.
<0> OC'ing makes the difference here or I would tell you to get the E6600 since it is a better stock chip.
<1> I need a good mainboard to oc
<0> yeah I you can get a better mobo with the money you'll be saving and better ram
<1> I know that Gigabyte has very good ones
<0> bbl I gotta get work done
<0> Major slacking going on here
<1> ok
<1> There is one other thing i'm wondering about
<1> Is it better to buy one nvidia graphic card for lets say 200$ or two for 100$ in sli mode ??
<2> whats Nvidia's comparison to the 1800XT?
<3> woot
<3> aunt might get a p4 gateway for $200
<3> means I might end up with her old sony celeron 600
<4> w***up w***up
<5> @find virginsfresh
<3> ooo I could reload that with 2k and give to my sister or aunt
<3> and be done with building pc's for people for a while
<6> KICK ME
<0> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060718232600.html
<0> E4300
<6> Anthraxus you bitch.
<6> CUNTS
<0> Yer momma!
<0> oooooo!
<6> Yer keyboard!!!
<3> anyone have verizon's slowest speed dsl tier
<3> my mom is going to have to drop cable and I might too
<0> Ah here it is
<0> righte= read this http://www.overclockers.com/tips01016/
<0> This is wtf you should get a 4300
<7> when in standby mode (XP), should the power supply's fan stay on?
<2> Is the Intel D975XBX motherboard a good overclocker?
<0> righte= and this http://www.overclockers.com/tips00999/
<0> er **** I got it wrong, the E4300 has a higher starting multiplier
<4> no
<0> At 400MHz, the low-end Conroes will run at the following speeds:
<0> E4300: 3.6GHz
<0> E6400: 3.2GHz
<0> E6300: 2.8GHz
<7> curry256, me?
<0> Now you tell me 2M of extra cache on a 6600 is going to make up for 800MHZ of clock speed?
<0> 4M Cache@2.8Ghz Vs 2M Cache@3.6?
<0> pwn.d
<7> cache pwns
<0> Extra 2M cache translates into ~400mhz clock speed... what about the extra 400mhz the 2M version has on it?
<0> In other words mathematically the E4300 will ALWAYS outperform the E6600 when Oc'd.
<7> no clue really
<0> unrefuteable.
<7> i have lots of studying left for my A+ exam
<0> hah A+ is easy man... just know the stupid connector types, and some lame antiquated SCSI terminology
<8> death to people
<0> A+ is a waste of time.
<0> Good to study for fun, but not worth the cert cost
<9> lmao
<0> Unless your employer is going to pay for it
<8> even then it's a waste of time
<9> btw, flyback
<4> not if they pay for it
<9> theres your boy trying to piss me off
<4> so **** u
<9> ;P
<0> lmao you guys are hilarious
<4> u want some bitch
<4> ill take u all
<8> bring it !
<4> not really
<9> rofl
<8> lets fight with our cocks
<4> i may get hurt
<9> I'm the only ethug here
<0> The E4300 has a 9X multiplier, compared to the 7X and 8X multipliers of the E6300 and E6400. Since the primary bottleneck for Conroes is going to be FSB, an E4300 will run faster at any given FSB than the other cheapish Conroes.
<9> stfu
<9> ;x
<9> Anthrax... nerd!
<9> ;p
<7> well it's just the beginning of a lot more MS certs -> MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA
<0> Waste of money dude.
<8> they're all wastes these days
<7> not my $
<0> Get an ***ociates degree and make $~30K-40K coming out the door Vs paying $5000 for those certs and have no ***urance of employment, since you have NO work experience behind the certs...
<8> you're trading your life for microsoft ?
<0> 2yr tech program will get you interships and job placement.
<0> Vs paper cert with NO experience.
<8> if you WANT to be a tech laborer
<0> Certs are eye candy only... Experience > Cert.
<7> no, it's just for training exp.
<0> Just read the FREE books at the book store and get some ebooks from newsgroups man.
<0> FREE, same material
<7> ...and it's a full program w/ job placement at the end
<7> too late, already paid for =/
<2> X1800GTO2 Vs. X1800XT? which one is better for gaming?
<8> I hope your computers come alive and kill all of you
<3> vae- dude he;s beeing doign this over 1 yr now
<3> he's psycho
<3> even me when I hate opers
<3> and intend to hunt them down and break their neck with my bare hands
<3> would have backed up publically for now after all the packets
<0> joe4444= well then sounds like you'll be on your way to good work, how much was the program?
<2> anyone? X1800GTO2 Vs. X1800XT? I'm not familiar at all with ATI graphics cards, but these two are very cheap at newegg
<7> Anthraxus, too much
<7> but i went to college for free so my dad didn't mind paying for this
<3> yeah I am going to have to have a sale
<3> to raise some $$$$
<7> if i knew better a year ago i would have convinced him to just give me my college fund, then buy all the books to teach myself, and start my own business... looks like i'll have to be someone's slave for a while before that happens
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