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<0> The PC is *****ED*
<0> Entirely and ultimately *****ED*
<0> Explorer.exe crashes constantly
<0> You know the drill.
<0> Som blaming P2P networks because some people have special trojans that implant themselves and hides behind Norton AV is just an extreme oxymoron.
<0> That's like claiming Windows Firewall to be an *ACTUAL* firewall.
<1> no
<1> it's not
<1> because p2p networks are not used responsibly by most ppl
<1> they don't know how to setup the shares
<0> Then the error is not the P2P.
<1> they leave themselves open to the newest trojans
<0> Its User Error
<1> they're a pain in the ***
<1> yep
<0> An dthe blaim cannot be put on P2P
<1> 95% of everything is user error, akuma
<0> I know a ****load of more maliscious things that can **** up a PC for good using IE irresponsably
<0> Than P2P.
<1> you don't even need to try with p2p
<1> most p2p networks default settings allowed to run for 2 weeks will bring trojans and more crap than you want to talk about
<2> _mre|29A, no email has arrived yet.
<1> without you even executeing a keystroke
<1> kojv: give me a minute
<1> i just got off work
<1> hehe
<0> Fact is.
<1> i got your email addy here in your msg
<1> i won't forget
<1> i won't close this cht window until i send it
<0> As long as you don't download .EXEs and MS Word Documents on P2P, you'll be pretty much safe.
<1> ok? :P
<1> no
<1> i've seen trojans designed as wmps
<1> and other sorts of media files
<1> all the other files are music files
<0> I've never seen a single one of those on DC.
<1> 1st one is a trojan
<2> _mre|29A, okay but could you please explain what your clients are suppose to use their computers for? If they can't use p2p or the internet in general without voiding the warranty.
<1> i've seen them from other sites
<1> i'll support torrents
<1> i've switched lots of ppl i know to torrents
<1> they love them more, because you download only what you wantt
<1> and it's decentralized
<2> _mre|29A, I have found open torrent sites to carry much more badware than any Direct Connect hub.
<3> Hi guys, it's me Grangee
<1> torrents are sorta p2p, but they're very different
<3> I'd be on here more but this computer is XP home..
<3> Anyone got any recommendations for remote desktop applications?
<1> in how they interact with the interface, it's a different animal
<4> Ayu_Aikou: vnc
<5> hey guys got a memory question
<1> Ayu_Aikou: vnc or MS RD
<4> I like citrix, but it costs $$
<5> i'm on an x2 4800+ cpu w/ 1gig of dual channel DDR400 memory
<1> i personally use Terminal Server
<3> MS RD doesn't work on MS Home.
<1> yeah
<1> citrix isn't a cheap solution
<4> Ayu_Aikou: uh, sure it does
<1> ms home is crap
<4> maybe not as a server
<4> vnc works well
<5> i've got 2 slots left and am thinking about upgrading to 2gigs..is it worth sacrifing the remaining slots and getting a second 1gig dual channel kit or just buy another 1gig dimm?
<3> Nope. You can't remote desktop to a MS XP home computers usng MS RD
<3> Or otherwise I'd do that. :)
<4> yea, as a server
<1> salec: dualchannel supported board?
<3> Yeah. This is my server computer now for data and the internet and have a 20+ week uptime and stable.
<5> _mre: yep, i've got a 1 gig dual channel setup right now
<3> I've heard of VNC, but doen't that cost money?
<1> you should replace chips and maintain that
<1> a dualchannel
<5> i'm worried if I get the kit that 2 gigs may not be enough
<1> well... doesn't really matter as long as it's matched
<5> especially if I ever go to use vista (the hogger of memory)
<2> _mre|29A, torrents download in a very different way than DC, but the important part is what you're ending up with on your hard drive. Have a look at an open torrent site like piratebay.org. There are hundreds and hundreds of infected uploads there, people actually design visually attractive torrents only to seed trojans and the like. If you upload something desireable yet small yourself, like a game that's hard to get or
<2> people actually design visually attractive torrents only to seed trojans and the like. If you upload something desireable yet small yourself, like a game that's hard to get or a patch for Windows Update, you will immediately get accused for seeding badware wether you're doing it or not.
<5> say I have a dual channel kit in there, does the second dual channel kit need to match the first?
<0> LIke DC
<0> Torrents can vary a lot dependsonfomr where the source and trackers are.
<0> I for one *NEVER* use public trackers.
<0> I always use private trackers.
<1> i personally don't use anything of this
<1> i use ftps
<1> but
<2> Takuma, exactly. The exclusibility of the source decides, not the technique used.
<0> Welcome to 1995 :P
<1> torrents have their drawbacks too
<3> I think the worst thing is when someone seeds a p***worded file. -_-
<1> for one it will slow a internet link down to nothing
<2> _mre|29A, you might get a trojan via an FTP as well as torrents or DC.
<1> take all the upstream
<0> Torrents is the ultimate protocol to m***-send files for distribution.
<1> if you're not careful
<0> Far superior than any other protocol.
<3> RARs and ZIPs **** because you can't choose which files you want.
<0> You can debae all you want about torrents.
<0> But the fact still is.
<0> It is *THE* superior way to m***-distribute files.
<1> this is true
<5> newshosting for the win :)
<0> Even game developers use torrents when they distribute patches to the online gaming community.
<1> but if you have a decent antivirus, i'll pick it up as it decompresses the rar
<0> Heck, even Blizzard uses it.
<1> yes
<5> Takuma: blizzard..but who else?
<1> there's many many legit uses for torrents
<0> I hear STEAM is planning on something similar.
<1> not so many for p2p
<6> will someone recommend a free av program for windows?
<3> I hate it when commercial entities release necessary patchs and stuff on torrents and they expect everyone to seed for them. I'm like, get ****ed.
<1> b0nker: avast
<2> _mre|29A, err... Bit Torrent *IS* p2p.
<1> avast jp,e
<1> home
<0> KOJV: Not technically, no.
<1> kojv: i admitted that
<5> Blizzard also barely uses P2P for it's patch system..the majority of the time people can't connect right to it because of firewalls and have to download via a direct html feed from Bliz (using the downloader)
<3> Uhh.. Who recommended VNC?
<1> it's sorta p2p
<3> I just remembered, there's heaps of VNC programs.
<1> but it's different
<0> It is very diffrent from say LimeWire/KaZaa etc.
<1> i got VNC on my server
<1> never use it
<1> my other techie likes it
<0> It uses an entirely different protocol and file sharing technique.
<2> Very different yes, but still very much p2p like any other.
<1> i use MS RD
<0> Torrents have RSS
<0> RSS > *
<2> Takuma, DC and Kazaa use very different protocols and file sharing techniques too.
<0> At leats some torrent clients uspport RSS.
<0> uTorrent/***ureus, the usual etc.
<3> Besides, what happens when I upgrade my server from Microsoft Windows XP to Linux? Then I'll need something that I can install to Linux.
<5> _mre|29A: Can you have 2 dual channel kits on the same mobo?
<3> idle247, do you know a free VNC?
<4> yes
<4> tightvnc
<4> winvnc
<4> there is many
<4> its also a ****ty protocol
<4> avoid using it over the internets
<7> http://www.wonderlandblog.com/wonderland/2007/01/jon_beinarts_to.html
<3> Yeah, but you can run VNC over a VPN for extra security :)
<6> whats better, ad-aware or windows defender, or use both at same time?
<7> or a VNC over SSH over VPN
<3> I'm trying to find the best free remote desktop application. For Windows + Linux. :)
<7> b0nk3r, neither
<6> Raccoon what do you recommend?
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