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<0> http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg71free_375a691.exe is this safe to download?
<1> yes
<0> ok, my a ask how u know if things are safe to download or not
<2> u dont
<3> most things that aren't safe to download usually try to capitalize on human weakness
<3> and human nature
<1> common sense + a good antivirus program
<4> uh
<3> the key is to be smarter than the idiot trying to screw you
<4> make sure the source is not porn/warez/etc
<0> lol yes
<0> so this is ok?
<0> http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg71free_375a691.exe
<2> yeah if you go legit, then it's safer
<3> or stop using your computer for porn or warez. :D
<4> yes
<4> thats good
<0> k thank
<4> avg av
<2> if you want to mingle in freebies, be prepare with some defenses
<3> yep.
<3> all problems come from pron, warez, or moneymaking referral crap
<0> ya
<3> or 'funny homeless beating videos'
<3> and garbage like that
<4> lol
<3> that's why pcs frequently get owned by kids since they are ****ers for all that ****
<3> OMG BOOBZ and GAMEZ
<4> used to be get paid to surf and **** was legit
<4> i had a website dealing with all that ****
<0> ya surfjunky
<3> also there is the inverse proportionality rule about system tuning and optimization software
<3> the more you install the more ****ed your PC becomes
<4> out my entire time dealing with that **** (while it was alive) i made around 200$
<1> Hint: you do not need a PlugIn/Toolbar/Download Mgr to browse most websites
<4> and i didnt really work on it
<4> now its dead tho
<4> because cheaters and stuff
<3> yeah any website content that requires you to accept an installation is going to own you
<1> if they try and make you install something, just walk away...
<5> you know what
<5> best idea ever by me
<4> make emulators that ran 3x to get money quicker and refgens
<5> a bash style quote that uses digg style submission!
<3> after a while you'll be able to read URLs even for signs of problems.
<5> cuz the bash now is like slashdot, horrible ****ing moderators
<4> astalavista.box.sk was the source for someone stealing my CC#
<3> EneergE - i had a friend that scammed alladvantage out of 15,000 bucks
<3> they ended up hiring him
<4> nerp: lmao
<3> dead serious
<3> he was 2muchcoffeeman
<4> i never did get anything from AA
<3> another friend found some deal where he'd get 100 free itunes songs if he signed up for a thingy
<3> he wrote scripts to make 10000s of accounts
<3> then sold each itune song on ebay for like .50 cents
<4> nerp: yeah, i probably know that person
<3> ended up making $25,000 in two months
<4> nerp: i used to run with the crowed that made those scammers
<4> or emulators or whatever
<3> said he worked 20 hours a day for two months running the scam but it worked.
<3> the hardest part, he said, was responding to people on all the ebay auctiions
<4> hmm
<3> i mean he had to sell 50,000 ipod songs he eeked out of a coupon code
<4> wtf, ebay?
<3> like, fill out survey, get get a code for free itunes song
<3> so he wrote scripts and created endless hotmail/gmail etc accounts
<3> actually he did something pretty sophisitcated to handle the email
<3> i think he bought a cheap domain for like 20
<3> with catch-all email
<3> and endless toplevel creation so he'd be like
<5> you know what
<5> you can't do that **** anymore
<3> bob@a.domain.com
<5> cuz for registratoin with those image things
<3> boba@c.domain.com
<3> etc
<5> type in what the image says
<4> lol
<3> daedalus - yeah well he used his own domains etc to get around that as far as having email accounts
<4> thats easy to byp***
<5> you just said he made endless gmail and hotmail accounts
<4> most off the programs were written in visual basic
<3> yeah I'm slowly remembering it
<3> i was wrong
<1> having your own domain is a great way to get caught pulling those kinds of spams
<4> hand: true
<3> hand - of course it wasn't a legit domain. :D
<3> i dunno, he told me all about it in an IM window a few months ago
<4> they had an "E-mail Generator" that registered several accounts at several different sites
<3> it was a pretty unbelievable scheme though
<3> i do recall now that he used a catchall
<4> the site hosting it eventually got into trouble
<3> and there was some weakness in the site that gave the code for the free itunes song
<3> so he just setup macros and ended up accumulating tens of thousands of itunes codes
<3> then just created endless ebay auctions
<3> and sat there and managed them until all the codes were gone
<3> he said he had a .txt document with the codes and as he sold each one he'd delete it from the file
<3> until they were all gone
<3> he said paypal made a lot of money by the time it was all over. :D
<4> ppl would buy songs?
<4> hmm
<3> .50 cents?
<4> well
<3> that's half price
<4> how exactly was that scamming
<0> http://csrea.org/pcdownloads.htm is this safe?
<4> aa
<0> sorry if im becomming a pain
<4> i mean ?
<3> well the rules of the promotion were one code per person
<3> he violated that about 50,000 times. :D
<4> ah ok
<4> just continued to sign up accounts and then sold the song
<4> heh
<4> stupid ppl on ebay
<3> it was some survey or form.
<3> he managed to get it to crank out codes like a slot machine hitting the jackpot
<3> then turned around and sold em one by one
<4> getfirefox.com is legit, sparky
<4> actually all of them are
<4> they link to another site
<4> thats a good idea
<4> or was
<4> how the hell did ebay not get him.. was he just selling the "codes" for free mp3 or something
<3> the only reason I believe him is that i knew him from an unscruplus place I used to hang out
<3> don't anymore.
<4> hmm
<3> and he was a pretty sleazy dude during the time I knew him
<3> one of them leechin types..
<4> //say 50000/.50 = $calc(50000/.5)
<4> bleh
<4> 50000/.50 = 100000
<4> he had to sell 100'000 mp3s to make 50000
<3> like if five guys had accounts on a really nice ftp site, he'd leech so hard in just a couple days that everyone would get kicked off. :D
<3> no
<3> he made $25,000 he said
<0> could someone tell me if this is safe please http://csrea.org/pcdownloads.htm
<4> so 50000 auctions
<3> he said it took about two weeks of macros he wrote to get them all
<4> Sparky715: YES!
<0> ok sorry
<0> :/
<3> i suspect he just had an ongoing auction with buy it now for .50
<4> hmm
<3> i wish I logged the conversatoin
<4> yeah
<3> it was pretty fascinating the trouble he went through to fine tune his little scam
<4> yeah with like 10+ feedback scroes u can run a multiple buy-it-now
<4> he probably had 300 for sale in each one
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