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<0> i'm just going to look around at buying a new board
<1> for some reason i cant remember what model mine is
<2> abit is going outta business
<0> really?
<2> I highly recommend MSI, ePox, Gigabyte, Albatron, Jetway, Evga...all over abit.
<0> not gigabyte?
<0> the other thing about my abit
<2> yes, gigabyte
<0> i have tow ram modules, both ddr 400
<2> gigabyte is rad
<0> and it tells me that they run at 200
<0> rad or bad?
<2> because they do.
<2> they run at 200mhz "double pumped"
<2> effectively 400mhz
<0> well when I have only one in it reports speed of 400



<2> oh, that's kinda nutty.
<1> someone else was talking about that earlier
<0> hah yeah, f this mobo pos
<1> 2 chips got 200mhz, 4 got 166
<0> what chipset you recomend nforce or via?
<1> for some reason the bios changes it when you add chips
<3> does fx57 2.8ghz use same voltage as a amd 64 300 1.8?
<3> 1.400
<4> i think
<3> hmm
<3> so quality cpus use same voltage
<5> agp can i msg you? i got a question about something
<3> and when u overclock like an amd 3000 to 2.8 ghz it simply just asks for more voltage
<3> yes
<3> or ask here
<4> it can also depend on motherboard
<4> Ive only gotten a 3000 on certain motherboards from 1.8 to 2.0 (aka 3 ghz to 3.2 ghz)
<4> but I have not complained since at 3.2 is good
<5> shmish
<6> Hello Everyone.
<3> I see, my mobo wont give me more than 1.45. thats 2 steps of volt enough for 300mhz
<3> so they got this vid-mod, u use some stuff on the mobo and get 4 extra steps and i can safely go to 2.5 ghz
<3> wich is a nice limit of ocing a 2ghx amd, others go for 2.8-3.0 ghz
<3> i show u a photo falmmingo
<3> http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/130/images/vcore_after.jpg
<4> 2.5 is good
<3> jupp i did run 2.5 but when i run occt it stops
<4> don't believe that they go at 2.8 or 3.0 gigz ****
<4> unless running possible a FX series chip
<3> ok
<4> if they do run it at this
<4> it's for all of :20 min
<4> then they go down quite a bit
<4> cause unstable
<3> 250 bus is the limit if i go over, i have to lower 800-to-600 bus and it will alsow depend more on ram so its a bustop and safestop
<3> hehe
<4> AMD will never go beyond mutliplier x11
<4> if you hit x11
<4> that is the max usually
<3> but from your experience 1.4 normal volt running 2ghz, 1.45 running 2.3ghz stable 15 hours occt. but 2.4-2.5 ghz isnt that to little voltage
<4> you can by all the fancy smacy CPU fans out there
<4> and 9/10 it does little or nothing
<4> I've seen it
<4> the ones who claim it has odds are they did it for a short time
<4> or they don't know what there talking about
<3> isnt fx 57 14 multiplier
<4> like I said
<3> 3500/3700 is multix11
<4> fx is a bit differenct
<4> different
<3> ok ok
<3> didnt know
<4> yeah
<4> FX you could hit 2.8 or 3.0 respectivly
<4> it's either x13 or x14 as you mentioned
<4> for all other AMD chips
<4> it's x11
<4> max
<3> i just hope with this volt-mid wich u saw on photo is very easy for amaturs. just gives u extra extra 4 steps of volt, enough to go to an average overclock
<3> nothing for hardcores
<3> 3800 and 4000 so they alsow use mutix11



<4> I found on average you get 200-300 mhz on x11
<4> more
<4> yup
<4> I use a 4000
<4> x11
<3> anI see
<4> so on average it's 200-300 mhz more
<7> hmmm
<3> so it starts with 220 fsb
<3> or 220 HTT
<7> how can you determine if your isp uses DHCP
<7> while on windows
<4> see on Northwood Pentium 4
<4> I got it 400 mhz more
<7> is there a dos command or anything like that
<4> but AMD is not that friendly in that respect
<3> I just sold one nworthwood 5 min ago almost whole pc without psu and hd, for like 100 bux
<3> 120 bux
<4> which was always said about AMD even more so there Athlon64 bit line
<3> and no screen
<3> 2ghz
<3> hmm
<4> oh yeah
<4> 400 mhz you can get out of northwood
<3> so amd tryes at best prevent people oc there system
<4> which is why some people are keeping them
<4> everyone hypes up AMD chip and by all means there great chips
<4> but they don't OC "that great"
<3> i did my 2.0 to 2.4 but went down to 2.3 since i had no sdram lock cant run nor agp pci
<3> I see
<8> hello guys :P......i just wanted to ask does this chip exist ? or is a replica thnx alot
<8> http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6829193047
<4> amd just OC 'some what'
<4> compare to a northwood p4
<4> it's not as good
<4> why I know guys who keep with Intel cause they got there 3 ghz HT running at almost 3.5 ghz
<3> normal value is: 1000HYpertreading/200x10/1.4volt) 200mhz ram i try do 800/250x10/166mhz ram wich gives 200mhz ram
<4> which is excellent
<3> just need that extra little voltage
<4> prescotts are not OC friendly
<3> k
<4> if at all there not much different then Athlon64
<4> maybe 50-75 mhz less
<4> wow 50 mhz
<3> if i had a 3.8 prescot it wouldtnt be a problem do it to 4ghz with a heatpipe, but after that?
<4> 3.8 on prescott
<3> since they say they are so hot
<4> no you could probably reach close to 4 ghz
<3> seems like i my cpu dont go over 40 celcius
<3> load
<4> 4 ghz is kinda the max cpu speeds anyhow
<4> anyone who says there running at 4.5 is talking
<4> bull ****
<3> hehe
<3> what about if they run this phasecoolin stuff
<4> if your running 4 ghz your running top speeds
<8> my 2.6/800 northwood ****s :(........cant reach 3.2....max 3.0 ;(
<3> u mean the bios shows 4.5 but they arent really running 4ghz
<4> and well is excellent
<4> the bios may not even show 4.5
<4> they could be bluffing
<4> how are you gonna know?
<3> cpu-z
<4> ONLY chip that could reach
<4> 4.3 ghz
<4> is the Athlon FX (the newer series)
<4> not even x2
<4> can
<4> And athlonfx run a heavy price
<3> look at this
<3> http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=997&d=1131281056
<3> shure does
<3> flammingo did u oc your cpu?
<4> yes


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