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<0> but science hasnt linked humans to apes yet
<0> the missing link is still quite missing
<0> not that it doesn't exist its just not found yet
<1> that's not quite true
<2> Old linky is crude oil by now
<0> mbuna I am not qualified to judge the age of the earth but I do note there are descrepencies in the aging process
<0> like a huge gap that is unaccounted for
<1> let's pick a channel
<2> the crust moves and shifts
<2> there is new crust under old crust with layers mixed all around
<0> as foir me I am not ready to sell into an idea that cant be proven yet
<1> say #computer-religion
<1> and take this conversation there
<1> it doesn't belong here
<2> and large segments of continental crust has submerged into the earth's mantle
<2> once it burns up in firey magma, all history is lost



<0> and thats the problem
<0> and why with our current knowledge this this qustion can never be proven one waqy or the other in our lifetimes
<2> proof often requires record
<0> and why I haven't actually picked one or the other...but have merits..both beleive in the scientific proven facts but differ on the unprovable theories
<1> ahem
<2> you cant prove who shot JFK. Not even Bush can.
<2> all record is lost
<0> mbuna: would it help if we referred to this as the origina of the cisco router?
<1> no
<1> join me in #computer-religion and we'll have a fun, enlightened conversation
<0> Raccoon: that is true..which is why Id ont pretend to know how shot jfk..and I dont propgate consirpacy theories on something I couldnt possible know for certain
<1> but it's done here.
<0> I cay we join #rac
<0> I cay we join #raccoon
<2> i say not :)
<0> and bother him in his own channel
<1> i _especially_ want to talk about jfk
<1> (elsewhere)
<0> well anyhow I see no conclusion to this conversation anyhow...there cant be one
<0> because no one is able to prove anything
<0> other then god if he exists...woudl be nice if he came and proved all things for us. of course thats nt his style :)
<0> happy now?
<1> "if you do things right, they won't know you've done anything at all"
<0> mbuna: pretty much
<1> heh, someone else banned reddawg
<1> for once
<0> mbuna: you missed that whole thing
<0> its what more or less parked the currnet conversation
<0> I tend to take the neutral cause myself
<2> refer to Douglas Adam's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy about the Babelfish and how this implicates God
<1> i'm a spiritual agnostic
<0> thus bringin neutrality to anyone elses "extreme" ideas
<0> by presenting logical opposing views
<1> i'll tell you all about it, somewhere else
<1> (and i'm an ordained minister)
<0> Raccoon: well whoc an argue with douglas adams view of the world
<0> if you never noticed before my quite and part messages are always his quotes
<0> another fie book
<0> mbuna: ordained?
<2> :)
<2> * Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anhthing so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes like this : "I refuse to prove that I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
<1> ordained, yes
<2> * "But", says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? it could not have evolved by chance. it proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
<0> I like that
<2> * "Oh dear", says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
<0> so god did exist..but is no more
<0> solves everything
<2> :)
<0> I like the message hat god left too
<0> the one that artur traveled for so far just to read
<2> Douglas Adams had Creastionists and Intelligent Design beat from day 1
<2> If they prove that nothing evolves by chance, god exists, and thus, he doesn't.
<0> well since no one else remebers it here was god message to the people
<0> "Sorry for the inconvenience"
<2> heh
<2> actually, i remember that now :)
<1> how very nietzsche of you
<0> I guess someone didn't read the entire 5 book trilogy
<1> 5 book trilogy
<1> heh



<0> Raccoon: dougl*** beat out both evolution and creation theories
<0> not just creation
<2> to be honest, i found the radio dramas (the original, and the recent one) more interesting than the books.
<0> he created a paradox between the two
<0> where nether logically could exist
<0> but ofc ourse one had to
<0> wel we dont get BBC over here and I didn't get a chance to find out when the new radio dramas were on
<0> but nothing could be worse then the monvie they made
<2> i could send them to you
<0> I still prefer the books most of all
<2> haven't seen it yet. not sure i want to
<0> the movie was only slightly better then the tv series from 30 years ago
<1> raccoon, this isn't the place for this conversation
<2> Ford Prefect is a skinny white guy with stunningly blue eyes.
<0> they altered the story alot...for those who never knew theooks they will see it as lame in general
<2> how did he become a token black dude?
<0> for those who did read th ebooks they will see it as altered beyond repair
<1> i respect you, but i have to insist it be taken elsewhere
<2> is anyone here talking about computers at 5:30 am?
<2> we're keeping the channel warm
<0> well they had deep thought in the movie
<1> could they?
<0> isnt deep thought a computer
<0> and wasn't the earth an even larger computer?
<2> that's deep blue
<1> would they even try through this mess?
<0> no its deep thought
<0> Raccoon: deep blue was made by IBM
<2> oh, in the book
<1> haha
<2> i thought you were asking a legitimate question :)
<1> deep thought
<0> the interdemnsial creatures made deep throught
<0> no they were transdeinential
<0> or something lol
<0> Raccoon: hitchkers isnt legitment?
<2> heh
<0> all the mysteries of the universe are answeredin that series
<2> i didn't see the new movie
<0> execpt one
<3> hey guys
<2> so why do you question deep thought as a computer
<0> the question whose answer was 42
<3> do you guys know any free websites?
<1> hey tessa
<2> but what's the question?
<0> Raccoon: I dont question it
<2> google.com is free
<3> lol
<1> i know maybe 100,000
<3> no for me
<2> lols
<0> Raccoon: my point is that talking about hitchikers guide is talking about computers
<2> for you
<2> try aol.com
<3> like my own private website
<0> since both the earth and deep thrght were computers
<3> hmmm . . . ok
<1> there are many
<2> geocities
<2> i wonder if angelfire is still around
<0> so hitchkers series is a conversation about two huge computers
<1> 2?
<0> yes 2
<0> deep thught and earth were both computers
<2> aah, i see where you're getting at kib :D
<1> what about the heart of gold?
<0> it had acomputer but it wasn't one
<0> it was a space ship
<2> thats just a ship with a improbability drive :)
<0> with an infinate imporbility drive
<0> improbability*
<0> and an attitude
<1> but what about its computer?


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