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<0> i figured out why Chronicles of Narnia became a movie
<0> Christian attempt to convert Harry Potter-aholics
<0> They started on the second book, Lion Witch Wardrobe, because it is the least preachy of the 7 books.
<0> the next one they'll release will be either 3 or 1, and from there it starts getting very very preachy
<0> The Lion is God, and teaches lessons on obeying and blind submission, never to question but only to do.
<1> mbuna: I cant find i on this machine and I didn't get it memorized
<1> but I did get it thus the no longer asking
<1> its on my cisco notes which I keep on the other pc
<1> but basically I had to telt he cisck the ip of the autorized dhcpsserver so any dhcp requests that coeme in and are taken byt he cisco are then related to the port that IP is on and only that port
<1> mbuna: but you see this switch is a 2950G-EI
<1> so it has some layer 3 stuff
<1> including dhcp relay
<1> this switch can filter based on port and protocol and ip
<1> it steps a little bit into the router side of things thats what the EI int he model name indicates
<1> Raccoon: you think that lion witch wardrobe was written to counter haryr potter?
<0> no
<1> I dont think harry potter was invented when the lion sitch and wardrode was first written
<0> but the movie was produced as a response
<0> Cronicals of Narnia are old
<1> well like I sais...they do nothing that other people dont ddo
<1> people convert others to their cause by making monvies
<1> whats the difference?
<0> written in the 40's to 50's
<1> dont they have a right to make their own monvies if they like?
<1> well lord of therings was older
<1> but they made amonvie form that
<0> it's pretty sneaky though
<1> and arather good one....I wasn't thiking someone could make a good monie from such a great book series
<0> choosing the most potterish of books to start the movie series with
<1> but peter jackson I think did a rather unexpected good job
<0> people wouldn't have taken to it if they started with book 1
<1> Raccoon: its called marketing
<1> look at star wars....they began with episode 4
<0> marketing: "hide the fact that this is a christian flick. draw them in slowly without expecting it"
<1> at the time they didn't intend on making any others but it was so popular they had to
<0> starwars didn't start at episode 4 with some hidden agenda
<1> Raccoon: its a movie lol....you just watch it if you dont like it then dont see it again
<1> I have gone to bad movnies before
<0> it was genuinely felt that 1-3 were uninteresting
<1> they are all promoted to be really good
<1> but when you go they turn out bad
<0> its not JUST A MOVIE
<0> it's a cult for kids
<1> you make amovie you do everything youc an to get as many to watch it as possible
<0> look at harry potter
<1> thats called marketing
<1> and marketing to kids is a very good business
<1> because kids get their parents to spend money
<1> look at the entire game industry
<1> companies do anything to sell another game or movie ticket
<2> ppl spend money on the game industry?
<1> has nothing to do with religion
<2> hmm i thought ppl just download them
<0> i dont want kids suddenly taking on fascist ideals because of some cartoon lion
<1> eelmoo: I will pretend you didn't say that
<1> Raccoon: then maybe you should keep your kids away from the TV...you never know what they will learnt here
<1> Raccoon: some christians I know think the tv is a bad thing...and generally wont watch it at all
<2> kib: very wise
<1> they find its distracts them from the work of god
<0> its not the presence that worries me. it's the subliminal usage
<0> injected in innocent ways
<1> Raccoon: what movie doesn't have that sort of usage?
<1> all movies are made to have an inpact in some way or another
<1> its a reflection of the writers and directors view on something
<1> look at all the monvies imchael moore makes
<1> michael moore
<1> not that he is in ay way wrong but his movies are very bias and subliminal
<1> he is making them to promote his ideas
<1> on things like general motors, columbine and 9/11
<0> how would you feel about kids watching michael moore about the great man with a small mustache who got rid of all the filth and skum who stole from Germany
<1> Raccoon: I call it freedom of speech
<1> and I might not like it but I dont have to watch it either
<1> I would suggest not letting your kids watch anything until you know what it is first
<1> as they get older though they will have to make their own decisions but if you raised them properly they will make the right ones
<1> as for narinia I realy ahvent watched it yet but since I read th ebook in school like 30 years ago I been meaning to watch the monvie one of these days
<0> all 7?
<1> well I only recall one
<1> it was 30 years ago lol
<1> I just remember it was one of the major books they made us read back then
<1> there were a few "cl***ics" that no matter what school I ent to there was one teacher who had us read it
<1> probably about 10 or so such books back in my days of being in school
<0> aye
<1> at the time I didn't viewit was a religios book..just a good story
<1> never ***ociated it with god in any way
<1> more like a fantaqsy story
<0> the books do have a lot of good story
<0> i really enjoy fantasy too
<1> the story doesn't have religios paralles unless you were already a religios person and understand the bible...I didn't know stuff like that back then
<0> until the Lion progressively ***erts himself at God and creator of all things, and gets all pissy about obeying his word
<1> but later on in life I made it a goal of mine to understand people in general
<1> Raccoon: well not knowing thebible back then I never drew that conclusion
<0> I can't say I'm well read myself
<0> but he explicitly calls himself God
<1> and not having seen th emovie I cant really remember much fro thebook other then it was a good story and I liked it better then some of the other books we had to read
<1> Raccoon: well like I said its one fantasy sotry...there are others where they proclaim something else as a god
<1> maybe not always a good one
<1> some sotries dont mention creation but mentione volution
<1> are those just as bad?
<0> evolution is fact though. even christians embrase evolution.
<0> we evolved since 1900 to today. and 1800 to 1900 we evolved some too
<1> is it?
<1> well I know about evolution
<3> hardly from the romans to 1800
<1> things do evolve
<1> but one has to ask the question where did it start
<3> i think we evolved down in the dark ages
<0> evolution is observed through breeding mice
<1> something came form nothign
<0> or breeding dogs
<1> at some point something was created
<3> kib, random events
<0> nothing is random
<1> no one can factually trace back anything to the bginning
<0> everything is sequential
<3> Raccoon everything is random
<1> the evolution teory has a problem with the beginning with the chick and egg scenario
<0> cause and effect leading to another cause and effect
<1> there is much we dont know
<0> the reaction is endless and never interrupted
<1> I dont think anyone theory has it right
<4> evolution has a problem with the chicken and egg question?
<1> because no thwoey is fully provable that many years back
<3> mbuna, chicken and egg is easy
<3> Dinosaurs evolved into chickens
<3> eggs stayed
<3> ergo, eggs came first
<0> so which came first
<0> the dinosaur or the egg
<4> [06:04] <1> the evolution teory has a problem with the beginning with the chick and egg scenario
<1> Schaap: thanks for that scholarly input
<3> both due to evolution
<3> hell, even humans have eggs
<1> Raccoon: what came first period is the big question no one can answer
<0> it's not easy for a being with a life cycle of 60 to 80 years to conceive of the changes that occur over a vast span of time of millions of years.
<1> and I dont know anyone old enough to remember how it all began
<4> at some point multi-cellular creatures became complicated enough to require zygotes
<4> it's not rocket science
<0> certainly, early forms of chicken were fish
<0> and early fish were bacteria
<1> Raccoon: what makes you so certain of that?
<0> because i was around back then :P
<1> we have bacteria now that hasnt formed into new larger organizisms yet
<0> if you don't believe me, you don't believe in God.
<0> I am he.
<4> good ol' JPII himself said that evolution and creationism aren't mutually exclusive
<1> Raccoon: evolution according to the christians fits int he creation theory
<0> The Bible explicitly instructs you to believe, that I am He, as I said it is so.
<1> to some degree
<4> unless you're like a SDA or something and you believe the world is 6000 years old
<1> so if pretty clear that the scientifically proven parts of evolution are commonly accepted by all parties
<1> but science hasnt linked humans to apes yet
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