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<0> troopa: it's just ridiculous... they got a good product, but they're ****in facists about it
<1> Soon companies will be using Ubuntu workstations with OpenOffice.
<2> and then they wonder why people don't buy their ****
<3> redhat=IB<M
<1> Since OpenOffice supports M$ ****.
<0> ppl are getting raided by the BSA for not having exchange server or sql server licenses
<3> IBM allready used linux
<3> thank god
<0> when they have the server licenses and the licenses for office
<0> it pisses me off
<1> Well, like I said.
<0> and it's something the government is willing to do little about
<1> New companies will start using Linux for their desktops.
<0> they don't even focus on their oem tactics
<0> consider this
<1> With ubuntu it would be an easy migration.
<3> yes, very
<0> Dell and gateway pay about $3 per XP Home license
<3> ubuntu is easy to pick up and just as powerfull as any other distro
<0> a OEM license to somebody that isn't Dell or gateway is like $80
<0> so who do you think can build computers cheaper and drive out the little guy?
<0> it's bull**** MS is helping Dell corner the market on PCs
<3> I know
<3> depressing
<1> I know that feeling. I have a small business that specializes in building machine for people (fully customized). With the OS prices I couldn't do it.
<0> this is something alot of you hate, but don't realize the os you're useing is supporting these big pc makers
<0> and killing the family owned pc shops
<1> All I could do were high-end machines and no one wanted or could afford them.
<1> Since DELL and others beat me in prices.
<0> troopa: yep
<3> we ned to get the word out to people who KNOW NOTHING about computers and let them know how ripped off thier getting and how much they pay for nothing in every new upgrade
<0> and it's totally because of how cheap they get windows
<0> i've been doing something lately, that's totally legal, and pisses MS off royally
<1> Well, my tech support stops with VISTA. I will not support it.
<0> nothing they can do tho
<0> recycleing old XP keys
<0> off old computers
<1> However, I will support Linux and offer FREE migration for a end-user.
<0> you figure out the version, and change keys on reinstall
<1> Only the cost of my time will hit them.
<0> whalah... legit version of windoze
<0> you'll want to support it troopa
<0> and for ppl like us, with half a brain... it'll be easy to get legit versions
<1> I will refuse to support VISTA.
<1> It has too many "gotchas" for an end-user.
<0> alot of ppl junk computers when they die
<0> good chance to upgrade
<0> heh
<1> You know how M$ is claiming it will be the most secure OS?
<3> linux login style
<1> There are already some 0days that are being held on to for that official release.
<3> su'ing basically
<1> So I can't wait to see the army of bots that will own vista, fast.
<1> People will then see how full of **** M$ is.
<3> heh
<1> "Virus(es) defeat microsofts most secure product yet"
<3> yup
<3> its time the monopoly goes down
<4> I wonder which is the main culprit here..
<1> Then they will come out and say "DELL made a mistake and released the wrong version"
<1> Version 2, SECURE H4XOR MODE -- 600 + TAX
<1> That is how they play it.
<0> Bush is in Bill Gate's pocket
<0> you guys realize MS gave mad money to his campaign
<4> Either PCI-E or S-ATA (overclocking problem)
<0> and lobbied the hell out of the republicans for a favorable settlement with the DOJ
<0> it was such bull****, a few states sued MS independantly
<4> Money talks
<0> yep
<0> it sure does
<0> no one wants to take them on
<0> they're a juggernaut
<1> People take them on every day.
<0> i know somebody being sued by them... for millions
<0> he was kinda dumb tho
<1> They don't do much, but every kid that boots up Linux instead of M$ is doing their small part.
<0> selling new comps with pirated oems
<0> and got busted by MS doing it
<1> It doesn't do much, but the open-source community is becomming a commercial threat, fast.
<0> yep
<0> because open source is depriveing MS of millions in licenseing fees
<0> MS charges about $70 a license for Exchange Server alone
<0> just a 1 client license
<0> software is about 1400
<1> Well, I would download my free copy in 30 minutes and call it a day.
<1> They can't do much about it anyway.
<1> Unless you're a huge company.
<0> yep
<5> microsoft ****s!!!!
<0> well... they have the BSA go after small companies
<0> big companies they sue direct
<1> I have a free copy of VS2005 (Architect Edition) that I use as my malware development platform.
<1> Go figure.
<0> BSA is that group that runs those radio spots telling ppl to nark out their bosses, for money
<1> It has a lot of nice features.
<0> if their company is running pirated software
<0> we live in a society of informers and narks
<0> it's sad
<0> and ppl try to say facism is dead
<0> heh
<1> I know. Some hosting company is investigating me and my friends for running a forum.
<5> in Ubuntu is it possible to run win32 based programms?
<1> 1&1 actually said we were a threat and a "group of hackers" sharing information that could "be used to spread virus(es)".
<1> I quoted them on our forum, heh.
<1> They are morons.
<0> i'd tell them they need to reread their constitution and bill of rights, especially the first artical detailing freedom of speach
<3> whats the link?
<0> and to kindly ****off before i call my attorney
<5> in Ubuntu is it possible to run win32 based programms?
<5> ?
<1> With WINE.
<3> drink in.....get some pinot wine
<3> it
<3> ;)
<3> or Xen
<5> dude?
<1> Dudette.
<5> what is the best linux os?
<5> red hat?
<1> There is no bext distrobution.
<1> They all use the same kernel.
<1> That pretty much makes them all the same OS.
<5> which one you reccomend?
<1> Ubuntu for a beginner.
<5> is there any linux platform that support windows programs?
<1> It is pretty nice.
<1> Only with WINE emulation.
<1> It is easy to setup though.
<5> what is so special in Ubuntu
<5> what is WINE
<1> Google it.
<1> These are questions that have been asked tons of times.
<5> ok
<1> The answers will be found on google very easily.
<5> i just googled it
<5> tnx
<1> np.
<5> so you reccomend Ubuntu?
<6> Ubuntu is more GUI based
<5> and the others?
<6> Good for desktop workstations and stuff if you prefer Win-X/Windows Enviroment.
<6> It is a pretty easy Linux OS though.
<4> Mandriva isn't bad for newbies.
<5> and what about linux server
<1> Ubuntu also has apt-get.
<6> If you're running for a serve rthen BSD is mayb a better choice.
<6> Far from easy.
<1> So installing software is as easy as apt-get install PACKAGE
<1> package being the name you want.
<6> troopa: So does Debian and Slack.
<1> No poop. :P
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