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<0> I agree she's probably full of **** but it warrants a read at least
<1> DrFweega: depends on what youre trying to do.. you'd be happy with sata though
<1> DrFweega: if you need the best performance you can get and have $, get scsi
<2> xedaps: I've heard people call '1+1=1' an interesting read because they dont understand it
<2> DrFweega: scsi/sas
<2> preferably sas
<3> how can an ugly little spic girl like betty
<3> has two lovers
<3> and i have none
<4> Well I have always been running like 400gb 500gb IDE and I wanted to update to use a RAID configuration
<3> ****
<0> heh, oh, now I'm being insulted. What exactly are you implying that I don't understand/
<2> DrFweega: ensure you get a hardware controller if you need reliability
<1> DrFweega: there are motherboards that have integrated raid with both pata and sata these days
<2> DVS01: dont even go there
<1> why not?
<1> i went there
<4> I just updated to a new ASUS P5NSLI
<1> and i i enjoy being there
<2> software raid is not reliable
<1> onboard raid controller = software raid?
<2> if you have a raid 0, sure, it will work
<4> I Don't know
<2> DVS01: yes
<4> I haven't checked yet
<1> Idle247: all inclusive?
<2> DVS01: no, but 99% inclusive
<1> hrm
<2> 99.5%
<2> you REALLY need to look
<1> so how does it work
<2> and even then, theyre ****ty cards
<2> er, ciontrolers
<4> I see options for raid config in the BIOS which makes me think it is on the mobo
<1> well im going for raid0, Idle247
<2> DVS01: its actually a bios addin
<1> so what is worth going with?
<2> basicly, all the processing is done on the general purpose processor, and all of its memory is in general ram
<1> doh
<1> that doesnt help much
<4> So unless I want to run some hardcore RAPTOR hdds at really high RPM I should just stick to SATA?
<2> DVS01: you can get a half decent hardware controller for under 500$ now
<1> DrFweega: the raptors are sata
<2> DrFweega: sata is fine for raptors
<2> raptors are kinda slow compared to sas
<4> Oh, I was under the immpression they were scsi
<1> sas?
<2> new scsi
<2> its serial
<2> and, whats really cool, sas controllers accept sata drives with the right cabling
<1> Idle247: i am allocating $2600 for a kickas system in june-july
<4> All in all though what is the most "bang for my buck" in HDDs?
<5> You lucky SOB
<1> Idle247: so at that time, i will need a good raid solution
<5> $2600 would buy me the UBER gaming box
<1> i want a raid0 with 3x 400gb
<5> boooooo!
<1> for the game partition
<2> DrFweega: bang for the buck, if you dont need longevity, is sata
<1> and like 2 raptors for the system partition
<5> Raid0
<5> unreliable
<1> doesnt matter how reliable it is
<1> i want performance
<2> :)
<5> :-0
<4> Well, I would prefer longevity
<1> i have over a tb on the fileserver that uses raid5
<5> *** w/o a condumb huh?
<5> Just GO GO GO
<2> DVS01: if you really want performance, I suggest a ramdrive
<1> the raid0 is for fast load times in games
<1> Idle247: what kinda ramdrive solutions are there?
<2> theres one that gigabyte makes...
<5> 8GB IRAM
<1> how much is that?
<2> 4gb max tho, so you can really only install a single game on it
<5> $$$$$$$
<1> hrm
<2> Anthraxus: 8gb now? not bad
<1> 8gb
<1> that is good
<2> actually its not bad
<1> i will have to streamline it though
<5> 8GB is great for OS part
<1> set up scripts that will set up gamedirs into ram drive, etc
<5> I never use more than 5GB at very most
<2> DVS01: remember, if you unplug it, you need to restore the data
<1> yes
<5> HAHA
<2> DVS01: exactly :D
<5> whoops
<1> thats why i'll install on the hdd, and have a script copy everything onto the ramdrive
<5> no no they have static ram
<2> DVS01: well
<1> i will have 1117gb of space on the game drive to install every game i ever liked
<5> You don't have to refresh, it stays written for a long period of time
<2> install it to the ramdisk, and use ntbackup or similar
<5> afaik
<5> Least not with the newer ones
<1> how much are those 8gb ones?
<2> otherwise the registry will become a flaming pile
<1> point me to a place
<2> Anthraxus: not the ones I have seen
<1> Idle247: hrm
<5> brb lunch
<2> theres some flash based ones, but theyre retardedly slow
<1> Idle247: i dont know if it would be worth it though.. games dont really take that long to load
<2> DVS01: they take standard ram sticks from any ram maker
<5> yeah raid a raptor or get a Fujitsu 300GB 15000
<5> UBER.
<1> Idle247: what i want to do is transparently mount it on the same drive letter. i think ntfs allows you to mount partitions onto paths
<2> DVS01: well, its retardedly fast for sequential reads
<4> Thanks for the help guys
<2> burst, since theyre sata 1, is slower then HD's, (sort of...)
<2> DVS01: yessir
<2> DVS01: BUT,
<2> you need to be careful
<1> some renaming tricks is all i'd have to do
<2> DVS01: well, heres my thoughts
<1> (if you can rename mountpoints)
<2> use ntbackup or whatnot, then just restore that 1 file
<2> if you make changes, use ntbackup again
<1> ntbackup?
<2> MUCH less work
<1> never used it
<2> yea, windows backup
<2> works pretty well for to-file backups
<1> hm
<1> offtopic, is veritas backup any good?
<2> comes with win2k and higher
<1> my employer said i can use their serial since it doesnt call home
<2> yea, vertias backup exec is very very nice
<2> but, not for home users ;)
<1> hehe tru
<1> speaking of which
<2> we use it at work
<1> whats a good backup solution for home?
<2> love it
<2> depends what you need to back up, and how much
<2> SPEAKING OF
<2> I need to activate our veritas 11
<1> ah i see
<1> can you point me to that 8gb ramdrive?
<1> ill search too, but maybe you know of a direct palce
<1> place
<2> gigabyte
<1> do you think $2600 is enough for a rockin system?
<1> i can pump more $ into it
<1> probably like $1000 more if i really try, but thats sorta overkill
<6> um yes
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