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<0> what exactly is this?
<1> propritory software n **** id ***ume
<2> ya
<0> narayan: what exactly is this "thing"
<2> its a door controller
<1> i know the wellsfargo cash machines run on xp emb.
<2> it opens and closes doors at certain times
<1> ok its not like every time someone triggers it?
<1> then xp isnt an issue!!
<1> lol
<0> couldnt an AVR do that XD
<1> omg it wont open.. someone reboot!!!
<2> ya
<1> let me in!
<1> ok cool
<2> its kinda funny
<1> sec lemme see if this would run on it .. and reboot it
<0> looks like windows shut you out :D
<2> haha
<1> whats the start time on that system anyways from initing shutdown to comeing back alive and running fully?
<2> about 20 seconds
<2> so restart is not an issue at all
<2> i was thinking of having an auto restart every midnight but that seems kinda dumb
<0> narayan: that sounds a good idea
<0> KISS!
<2> hrm
<0> kiss: keep it simple stuipid
<2> i found this software watchdog timer but it wont load on xpe
<2> ya i know i was just thinking when i said hrm :P
<2> i've been googling like crazy for the last 3 days without any luck.
<3> I suspect you got something seriously wrong
<3> i'd start some loggers till youfind out wtf is going on
<4> ?
<2> well the thing is even if i did find what is wrong i wont be able to fix it
<2> because the software doesnt have any updates and i can't update xpe
<2> it doesnt even have sp1
<3> oh xpe
<3> hmm
<2> ya :(
<2> i've looked into couple things but because its xpe they dont really work. i think the only thing left is to restart every night
<3> that should be easy
<3> just put the shutdown reboot command in the task manager timer thing
<5> xpe?
<5> xp embeded?
<3> lemme find some info
<2> ya
<5> memory leaks? sounds like you need to call the vendor and get them to fix their apps
<5> we have 30 thins running wyse S90's on XPE, since we installed them in november, they only rebooted because of a power outage
<2> well the app is running java
<2> and the software is pretty old and there is no support for it
<4> Christ I would like a Laptop... but what you get for the amount you spend is pure garbage!
<4> Non upgradable crap...
<4> I could get an uber Desktop for 1/2 the price...
<0> hmm, netsplit on freenode...
<6> Idle`: the system has enough ram to hold this iso...the iso is only 200MB in size
<6> and its a bootbale ISO normally used in a cdrom anyhow to boot/install
<3> wait
<3> the app is java
<3> then it's not the app
<3> it's the java vm
<3> did you try installing another vm
<2> ya
<3> well your idea will work
<3> basically all you need now is to find out what the command is for reboot
<6> Idle`: but if its a floppy image so I just give the name of the floppy image to the dhcp as the file to get from tftp?
<3> and a timer app
<6> also does it need to be in img format or will a normal iso work?
<3> kib I don't think that will work
<6> flyBED: what would you suggest?
<3> I think it has to be a certain image format to net boot
<3> but I couldbe very wrong
<2> well the thing is too that this thing needs to work and its very fragile so i dont really wanna mess it up any more so i havent really played around with differnet java vms and whatnot
<3> nara is it onthe net
<6> I need otbe able to run firmware boot floppies or boot disk for net install of various other things like vmware and operating systems
<3> wait
<3> you just need to boot a floppy?
<6> flyBED: well mostly I see the .img format...but I don tknow if img format is different then a standard iso or now
<3> you know cdr's can do 1.44 floppy emulation boot
<6> I know nothing of the fomrat..someone even told me its really just a gzip file but I cant seem to make gzip work on the ones I have here
<3> .img is usally just a raw image afaik
<6> flyBED: I need to boot floppy or bootable iso images
<6> different situations willa arise requiring either one
<6> and I dont have physical access to the servers
<3> hmm
<6> so it will need to come from the net controlled by dhcp/pxe
<3> does the server do PXE
<3> ah ok
<6> yes they can pxe boot
<3> check into etherboot
<6> I psxe boot freebsd iunstaller and centos installers now
<6> thats easy
<3> ok
<6> but how to install something generic like a firmware floppy?
<6> or a vmware bootable iso
<3> I think etherboot caN
<6> whats etherboot
<3> BUT YOU WILL have to check around
<6> some bios option?
<3> listen I will be able to do more research when I get home tonight
<6> sure ok
<3> have to get belt on my car replaced before dARK
<3> cause I don't have a alternator and the headlights will collapse the battery quickly
<6> I will gogole for it but not knowing if its bios or software or something like nfs it will be hard for me to narrow it down
<3> it's sw
<6> ok
<3> works with ethernet roms, and also pxe
<3> I am going to embed memtest86 in a ethernet bootrom
<6> does the target system need this installed or will it be pulled in via pxe like pxelinux is?
<3> and make a diskless memory testing dedicated box
<3> pulled in afaik
<3> but read the url to find out
<3> google etherboot
<6> I have
<3> let me know what you find and message me to remind me
<6> getting confcliting results
<6> etherboot appears to be more then one thing :)
<6> but I found a wiki page that seems to match what your syaing
<6> they call it GPXE
<3> hey
<3> http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/eb_imagetypes?DokuWiki=396004c1e5e270e365431570589578a5
<3> yep
<6> yes thats more or less the same place I found
<3> HEY STUPID DJBCANUCK
<7> yes?
<3> nothing :P
<6> it seemed to be the best match form the results..ehteoot seems to be alot more then a pxe related one..but this url at the top does seem to be the one your talking about
<3> well I think etherboot can work with pxe to get it started
<3> but I didn't read that much into it yet
<2> anyways im gonna go. ill do an automatic restart every night. thanks for help tho. bye
<6> flyBED: that sites doc section doesnt tell you how to do anythign..its more like a marketing page telling you what it can do but nothing about how to make it work
<3> http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/biosmodule
<3> woot
<3> thx
<3> I can use this
<6> http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/pxe
<6> I was reaidng that
<3> here
<3> http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/pxe.howto.html
<6> the url you gave seems to be to install etherboot on the bios
<6> which means I have to be there to do it in person
<3> dude
<3> I said that was for me :)
<6> and I dont know i I want to risk replacing the supermicro bios with this one
<3> I just foudn that while looking :)
<6> ok
<3> na don't do that, flash a nic card with the code
<3> that way if it canucks up you just have someone yank the card
<6> http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/pxe.howto.html <-- that url seems usful
<6> so let me get to reading it
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