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<0> I have absolutely no idea about that
<1> heya ladies
<1> ACHTUNG
<1> me /hmm blue... defragnmented disk keeper 1
<1> Uptime: 2 hours 49 minutes 9 seconds
<2> which is the best athlon 64 core?
<0> Depends on what you cl***ify as "best".
<2> venice, newcastle, winchester, san diego or clawhammer?
<0> Depends on what you cl***ify as "best".
<2> lookin for gaming performance
<0> Then it doesn't matter.
<0> Unless you're into heavy overclocking.
<2> nope
<0> Then it really doesn't matter.
<0> Venice is the newest.
<0> And runs a tad colder.
<0> But that's about it.
<2> ok thanx
<0> But they're all 90 nm.
<0> And they're all pretty much the exact same.
<2> the clawhammer and newcastle are 130nm
<0> Yah. But preformance-wis ethey're pretty much the same.
<2> which is greek to me
<2> 130 nm better or worse?
<0> There's no "better" or "worse" in that.
<2> whats iy mean then
<2> it*
<0> It just says what silicon insulator layer is on.
<1> 130nm is old design
<0> How many contact-points they get on the chip.
<0> 90nm is the newest (Venice Core)
<0> But in terms of preformance they're all the same.
<0> Unless you're into overclocking them.
<0> Then it gets a tad more trickier.
<0> Winchester, San Diego and Venice are all 90 nm.
<1> san diego for 939 higher l2
<2> not gonna overclock but ive been tryin to figure my best option for price
<0> They got all released pretty much the same time.
<0> Trick_2: Don't bother measureing your price versus the cores. Measure your price versus the clock speed of the CPU.
<0> Trick_2: What is the budget?
<2> been lookin @ comparison charts vers the xp and sempron
<3> I still have a 2GHz Barton
<2> lower then 150.00
<4> well its like a celeron vs a pentium
<3> games don't really care
<3> 2GHz is 2GHz
<4> theres a price and a performance benefit
<0> Trick_2: 150 for a CPU or a complete system?
<2> cpu
<1> Dupper what fsb?
<0> Trick_2: You can get an AMD Athlon 64 +3200 Venice Core for that.
<2> found a 64 3000+ for 119.00
<0> Trick_2: Buy that CPU boxed retail and it will also come with a fan/heatsink.
<0> Yah. That works too.
<3> 180
<3> on my fsb
<0> But my best bet would be a +3000/+3200
<3> so really it works out to more like 1.98MHz
<0> Trick_2: Mind you if you want an extremely demanding gameing rig those CPUs aren't the top of the line.
<1> i run 200 for my xp1700+ :)
<2> my xp 1600 ran great with the game i play
<0> Trick_2: Everything will run on it, but just not the maximum settings and everything on.
<2> till i fried it
<3> Name 1 game that runs 50% faster on an Athlon64 than on a Barton of the same clock speed
<3> one game
<3> 50%
<0> Dupper: F.E.A.R? =P
<1> ut?
<3> FEAR is 64 bit?
<0> Dupper: HL2? =P
<5> far cry?
<0> Far Cry? =P
<3> Far Cry is 64 bit?
<1> afr cry is 64b
<2> yup
<3> Cool
<3> Now if they just make games dual core, I'll really feel pressured to upgrade
<3> honestly
<3> I am going to get a PPU
<1> Trick_2 whats your video card now?
<3> that PhysX thing when it comes out
<2> ati 9250 256 mb
<3> then my CPU won't matter cuz it'll sleep through games
<2> agp 8x
<0> justna: What the ****** do you want?
<6> what is your CPU now?
<2> atm its athlon 900 ...i jus fried my xp 1600
<7> oh hi
<3> dumb ****
<3> how do you fry a cpu
<7> anyone want to help me build a gaming rig, or give me some ideas on good parts
<3> Ummm
<3> goto best buy
<3> buy XBox360
<3> Done.
<2> unknown...i think it was the onboard video
<1> justna
<6> PC are going to get complicated more
<2> north bridge smelled burnt
<6> so yeah
<6> get a xbox
<1> get an amd 939 cpu
<3> a "gaming rig" that's as fast as a 360 is going to be 3x the cost
<0> justna: I would prefer in teh future if you asked those questions in the channel rather than privately MSGing people you don't know.
<8> uhh
<7> my pm had nothing to do with that question
<8> athlon64 is 30% faster than athlon on 32 bit code
<7> i asked if you played wow
<8> it's a fact
<8> right from amd
<0> My point is. Don't PM people randomly like that.
<7> cause i know an akuma
<7> i'm sorry it offended you
<3> flyback: Link to 3rd party benchmarks, please?
<1> heya flyback
<0> justna: You don
<8> dupper don't need them
<8> hi esd
<0> justna: You don't offend me.
<8> new furnace in
<8> just have to clean up now
<8> I spent 1 hr rebuilding the old condensate pump
<8> 1 hr with buytl cellosolve, bleach and rubbing alochol
<3> How can an Athlon64 run a 32 bit app 30% faster than an AthlonXP?
<8> getting the mold slime out
<3> what does it do that makes it that much faster
<1> disk keeper 10 is so nice for my win x64 :)
<8> dupper exec engine efficiency
<0> Dupper: Well, for starters a Socket 939 has Dual Channel Memory mode.
<0> Dupper: That alone is a significant boost in preformance over an Athlon XP Barton
<6> AMD M2 coming out soon
<6> what speeds will be is unknown
<1> blah i need a x64 cpu monitor pgm
<8> esd wtf?
<6> but the main difference will be support of DDR2
<6> that leads to another fact
<6> DDR2 is not any faster then DDR ONLY if you overclock
<3> What games support dual core?
<0> Not this dude again...
<6> and everyone claims they know how to OC but i've seen machines fried
<1> j/k, hot air from exhaust flyback
<7> if i have 1000$ to spend and dont need a monitor what should i look for, amd 939, what about vid card and ram?
<0> justna: Right off the top of my head. Video card nVidia GeForce 6800 GT
<9> if you dont know what to look for, get a dell
<0> justna: 1 GB of RAM
<9> heh
<0> Kuragari: Don't be mean! =P
<9> i'm not
<9> i'm being realistic
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