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<0> at high resolution
<0> choppy or
<1> so show me
<0> smooth
<1> i mean since its going to make such a difference
<0> just gave you the numbers, go up a few lines
<1> here let me remind you of something
<1> since you're all about bandwidth now
<1> <0> 333 Mhz is far and beyond enough
<1> you cant play both sides of the fence
<0> technoloG I ment 333 Mhz FSB, since we all run 200 on a regular basis, or HTT as some call it on AMD systems
<1> see now you're floundering.
<1> just go ahead and google up your 30% differential in gaming and get back to me.
<0> technoloG no I'm not, but you like to keep yourself busy, while I was trying to have a decent conversation
<0> technoloG for the last time idiot!
<0> 30% difference in bandwidth!
<0> not in real world perfomance
<0> unless you're on crack, you'll know the difference between them 2
<1> yet that 30% translates into a real world performance differential at high res according to you
<1> which you should be able to show me
<0> technoloG yes it
<0> does
<1> ok, so show me.
<0> it's the difference between having a smooth experience
<0> or your game halting a split second every now and then
<1> blah blah. christ this conversation is over
<0> so the video card can take a peak at your system memory trough PCI express
<0> hell it is
<0> as a reference, read up on nvidia driver designs, Intel's PCI express documentation (cause they came up with it), AMD motherboard guide lines
<0> then come back and argue with me
<1> show me real world differences.
<1> end of story.
<0> technoloG how can I do it over IRC? look, this conversation is over. Just fire up your email client and ask AMD, see what they say.
<1> how can you do it? show me benches
<1> lesser gameplay "experiences" would be the result of things like oh..let me see...less performance, which would be reflected in benchmarks
<1> its pretty simple
<1> till then im just going to ignore you.
<0> technoloG grow up dude
<0> technoloG and btw
<0> technoloG just so you know in case you'll buy a mac
<0> technoloG they run on intel chipsets
<0> technoloG the northbridge memory controller is set by default on 2T on intels, in the silicon
<1> I know they run on intel now, dip****.
<1> I also am currently running 2T on my x2 3800, which is why I've done a hell of a lot of research on 2T/1T differences
<1> you're so bitter with so little to show
<1> the difference in my argument and yours is that anyone in this channel can look for themselves and youll still be wrong :D
<1> have a nice day.
<0> you could have save yourself the husttle and buyed a mobo for $10-15 more that could run 1T on anything, like an Abit, EPoX, or DFI
<0> I guess you've proven who the looser is, thanks for doing this exhausting task for me
<1> not at 4x512 you wont.
<0> DFI CX200, ATI chipset will run 4x512 at T1
<0> I've seen it donne
<1> so I should go buy another board
<1> for that m***ive 2 or 3 %
<0> it's rare, because it takes some BIOS coding skills, so you make that ram look as 2 sticks to the memory controller, and some good mobo components
<1> when I've been using this one like 6 or 8 months now
<1> god you're an idiot
<1> you cant prove *anything* you said about performance
<1> if you could you would have by now
<1> you're still floundering
<1> stop flopping around like ****ing flipper and go get some benches
<0> told you, it's in bandwdth, and I can prove memory bandwdht only with benches like sandra. I never claimed it's in real world performance. How ever it will make your machine performs smooth in games
<1> "I never claimed it's in real world performance." is exceedingly contradictory to " it will make your machine performs smooth in games"
<1> i mean ****ing HELLO
<1> you're playing both sides of the fence
<0> technoloG you're just ****ing around with me know like a pair of balls in a bucket
<0> got nothing better to do?
<1> you're more like shooting fish in a bucket
<1> i mean you just argued with me forever then agreed with me
<0> that makes no sence
<1> "I never claimed it's in real world performance."
<0> if you keep a ****ing log of your chat sessions then ****ing read it, you'll see what I've said.
<2> http://www.google.com/trends?q=Windows%2C+Linux&ctab=0&date=all&geo=all
<3> marcm i read the whole chat
<3> you made the perfect point
<3> perioud
<3> I agree 110%!
<0> bigs thank you:)
<3> apple is moving to pc, infact I consider them pc based allready
<0> I don't claim I'm perfect
<1> "I never claimed it's in real world performance. How ever it will make your machine performs smooth in games" yeah thats perfect alright.
<1> its not contradictory or anything!
<0> and by running so much hardware latelly trough my hands I just realize how little I know about hardware
<3> Well I went to the top of the channel where you started, and everything was right on with what I think and know
<0> bigs , technoloG is just bored, and bored people need to argue
<0> so I understand
<3> true
<0> after all
<0> these are just oppinions
<1> blah blah blah: no benches.
<3> I get like that too sometimes
<3> **** benches
<3> thie rmade of wood, i want my leather couch
<0> no one puts a gun to technoloG's and makes him agree, read or chat with anyone, it's all his choice
<1> the stupidity of this statement is amazing: "I never claimed it's in real world performance. How ever it will make your machine performs smooth in games"
<1> yes. agree with him, please.
<3> screw games too
<3> lol
<1> if i threw you two idiots in the dryer, would you stick together
<3> If you game a lot, that proves you got too much time on your hands
<3> tech.....go read up, or better yet walk into a apple store
<1> you apparently only scrolled up enough to miss what the entire arguement was about
<0> bigs I've just told him that there is a 30% gain in memory bandwidth by running 1T command rate on Athlon 64 skt. 939, not in real world performance, which means that that 30% gain will improve smoothnees in games, make windows boot a tad faster, lower HDD access times, make your rar archives decompress a tad faster, gives you a few more points in 3DMark 05, and so on
<3> even they will tell you the same thing, hell steve jobs said thier moving twords more pc'ish puting
<1> which wasnt about apple
<0> key word being "smooth"
<1> bigs: learn to read
<3> your right
<0> bigs actually I'm on vacation, just purchased SIN Emergence and I'm almost trough with it, sweet game
<1> "smoothness" is framerate related
<3> smoothnes....i know what you mean
<0> uhm, no it's not
<3> heh
<3> omg tech
<1> you talk about smoothness as if its some intangible quality
<1> like its floating around in the ****ing ether
<1> its a result of performance
<0> benchmarks have been coded to ignore the stuttering that occurs when video cards need to access ram, otherwise nvidia & ATI would go bankrupt
<1> end of story
<0> technoloG we ended our arguments a long time ago, you're the one that keeps going
<0> technoloG which proves my first point, that you're borred
<3> i wanna talk linux/bsd
<0> technoloG buying an ASROCK mobo to save a few bucks will prove my next point:
<0> you don't have a job
<1> yes marcm: have fun differentiating "smoothness" out as something that cannot be measures
<0> bigs I like linux
<1> measured
<0> bigs have you checked out FC5?
<2> http://bash.org/?162513 <-- i guess flyback likes being on his mom
<0> bigs wish I knew how to activate GLX
<3> yea
<1> marcm: itll also prove I know how to intelligently spend money.
<3> using it now
<4> Have any of you guys used NexusNetworks.ca for hosting?
<3> fedora core 5
<3> rocks
<4> is XGL in fedora core 5?
<0> bigs I know FC5 comes with GLX utilities, but it's off by default
<0> or XGL
<4> off by default?!
<3> yea
<4> they have docs on how to turn it on?
<0> Dodger346 yeah, I ment XGL, was thinking OpenGL library
<3> takes 2 seconds to get it running
<3> no biggie
<0> technoloG proves that you don't work for a living punk
<3> i dont game on linux tho, obviously. I know you can. But im not a gamer
<1> marcm: actually i do.
<1> "punk". lol
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