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<0> haha
<0> BIGS!
<1> who?
<2> Hello.
<0> i need to get one of those laptop fans at walmart
<0> sit your laptop on it and it has fans that keep it cool
<3> you need 3 gbs of ramz? heh lol
<0> me yes
<0> for my lappy i need 3
<0> so i can run vista like no other
<3> i smell a h4x0r
<0> lol
<0> why do u think im a hax0r cause i need memory
<0> to run my threads
<0> to scan for vulnerabilities?
<0> ;p
<2> You do realize that you will not see any noticable performance gain over 2GB of RAM, unless you do some high-end multimedia, 3D modeling, and things like that.
<4> to scan for your daddy's dirty porn
<2> So the average user buying anything over 2GB is a borderline waste of money. Also, the 32-bit versions of Windows have a memory limitation.
<0> im doing nothing like it
<4> banchi, 3 gigs of ram will only get you so far
<0> but having it is for backups
<4> vista is a pig on cpu
<0> i got
<2> So if you wanted to take full advantage of the maxmimum RAM capacity, run a 64-bit operating system that can actually see it all.
<0> ircN[moo] [cpu: 2-AMD , 803MHz (12% Load)]
<0> aka
<0> 1.6ghz
<0> dual processor
<0> Turion 64 X2
<0> im sure vista would run fine on my box ;)
<0> it says Windows Vista Capable as is
<0> i just dont want a slow vista box
<1> aha
<1> this should be cool
<1> 2x74gb raptors, and 3x400gb's, all in raid0
<1> should make a nice gaming box =D
<4> banchi, laptop cpus are weak tho
<2> banchi: Be more worried about the spyware that comes within VISTA. Also, be really worried about the digital rights management hell it will inflict.
<4> and you need good video to push vista
<0> ircN[moo] [gfx: NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150]
<2> Not to meantion the backdoors placed in it for the U.S. Government, and security vulnerabilities that have yet to be fixed.
<0> that coudl enough
<0> ?
<0> with shared memory.
<4> you'll see a cap in video
<0> a cap?
<1> 1117gb game partition will be nice =D
<4> bottleneck
<2> A bottleneck, he means.
<0> this vid card is supposed to take the computers memory when it runs out of its gfx memory
<2> A performance limitation by a particular mechanism that can not keep up with the other, faster, hardware within the box.
<4> shared memory is not a good thing eh?
<0> why not?
<4> because it shares the same bus as the cpu
<2> That is why it is ****ing pointless to buy a $600 video card and have a celeron CPU, lol.
<2> Because the CPU will not keep up with the GPU.
<2> So you now have a bottleneck.
<0> i see
<0> so you dont think my **** would be fine
<4> exactly what troopa mentioned but now you have a suped up cpu with ram and weak video
<0> i just bought this box a week ago
<0> 1400$ with my targus bag
<1> this is gonna be nuts man
<0> ;p
<1> im gonna install every game i ever liked in my life
<4> banchi, u should have bought a laptop with a dedicated ati card or something with a bit more powerful gpu
<1> ill also set up a win98se vmware and a vdmsound for the old games
<2> Can I have everyones attention for one moment please?
<1> sure
<0> i couldnt spend 2000$ on a laptop bro
<4> thats cool
<0> i was lucky to even get this
<4> go to 2gb and sit on that, i wouldnt upgrade it any further
<0> but im happy with it
<0> yea
<0> ok
<4> vista idling takes like 700mb
<0> yea i hear
<4> so 1.3 gigs free for apps/gamez is fine
<0> thats kinda ****ty
<2> Please be aware: Do not rush into VISTA. The release date is the end of this month, but there are zero-days that have NOT BEEN FIXED. There are also inherent security issues that have yet to even be looked at. Also, be aware that IT DOES CONTAIN SPYWARE AND OTHER MECHANISMS THAT INVADE YOUR PRIVACY!
<1> man this is nuts..
<0> im sure it will get better with newer sp's?
<1> $550 for video card, $550 for cpu, $530 for hard drives
<2> Not to mention that the digital rights management will ****. VISTA will almost work against you.
<0> im not putting vista in till sp1
<0> or sp2
<0> for it or something
<2> banchi: Sit on 2GB of RAM, and you could probably update the video if you wanted to.
<1> yo, getting this $250 motherboard is gonna be worth it
<4> nope
<4> all nvidia is onboard
<2> But even crappy video will be enough to get around in vista.
<1> because im not gonna have to buy a raid adapter for the 5 hdds im raiding
<4> unless you can get like pcmcia video
<0> i really wasnt into the laptop for gfx, it was kinda of a freebie instead of getting a **** card
<2> Do modern laptops not offer any expansion and disable the onboard?
<4> banchi, vista is gfx intensive as well as video games
<4> nope
<0> yea but i dont play video games
<4> only ati cards have video slots
<1> ive seen benchmarks where games in vista run like 15% slower
<0> more of a music/musicvideo/movie guy
<4> banchi, u should be fine then
<0> i aint into WoW
<4> up to 2 gigs and sit there
<0> alright thanks man :D
<4> ya, it'll do all that stuff fine
<0> how much is a 1 gig going for these days?
<0> 100$
<0> ?
<4> about $140
<0> ouch
<4> for 1 gig name brand sodimm
<0> what does 2 DIMM mean?
<1> yea i gotta spend like $420 for 3gb =/
<4> i would look at your computer to see if you have the slot for it
<0> cause i have a 1024mb of memory (2 dimm)
<4> i know a lot of the laptops come with all the banks filled
<0> it was it shows
<2> New laptops should have an easy access panel though. So that will make upgrading the RAM a little easier on you.
<2> Since I have seen some then you just undo a screw, open a panel, and there it is.
<4> ya, usually on the underbelly
<4> but i know a lot of the laptops require you to rip off the keyboard
<2> Not all laptops have them, but I am sure most do by now.
<4> check your banks first before buying
<4> ram
<4> cuz to go to 2 gigs from what you have, you may have 2 512mb in dual channel
<4> and to go to 2 gigs, you actually would need to replace those two sticks and buy two 1 gig sticks
<4> it's very typical in laptops to be like that
<2> It is very typical of most pre-built machines.
<2> Desktops, laptops, et cetera.
<4> not really
<4> desktops usually offer lots of expansion
<4> laptops dont
<2> Yeah. Most of the HPs and other brands you buy often have 512MB or 2x512 by default, but have expansion slots free.
<2> Typcially 3 to 4 slots, which one to two being in use.
<4> ya
<2> A common configuration is 2x512MB
<4> laptops are horrible for upgrading, cuz you have to replace what you have
<4> usually you can do things like hd, sound, video (if dedicated)
<4> cpu
<4> but in order to do that, you always have to replace the components instead of adding
<2> That is why people really don't like working with laptops.
<2> At least, I don't.
<4> i bought a laptop about 2 years ago
<0> http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4146319&JRSource=googlebase.datafeed.CPQ+V6120US
<4> the acer ferrari, sits on my desktop collecting dust
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