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<0> hmm, what do people think of the new macbook pro's
<1> 5.1 Nikon, nice
<1> i got a 5.1 Sony Powershot
<1> very small
<1> great for taking to races and football games
<2> no snow yet
<2> damnit i want my cpu :(
<1> people in hell want ice water
<1> heh
<3> i want some bread
<2> well they should go through fed ex and not ups
<2> is this a god damn?
<2> lol
<4> that movie will always be a cl***ic
<4> heh
<2> yup
<5> i need to find a good tech school that isn't MIT
<6> RIT
<5> need to go back to college
<0> thinkpad or macbook pro?
<5> out of my league
<6> ITT Tech then
<5> haha
<2> college is overrated
<2> pick any one
<7> ITT Tech = profiterring private corporation
<2> and get the peice of paper
<7> Colleges & Universities don't profit per-say
<6> ITT is accredited at least now...I know 2 of their graduates, they both make $8 an hour doing data entry
<7> ITT TEch is NOT accredited
<7> Check that fact, because it IS A FACT
<4> ITT isn't even accredited
<7> They're not
<0> daedalus`: harvard extension has alot of nice night cl***es
<6> err you're right, I got that mixed with Bryant and Stratton
<7> I guarentee it
<5> wacky
<0> thats what im doing
<7> See how well I spell guarantee
<5> i barely p***ed algebra in highschool, lets think realisticly here
<4> wacky, your typing tutor forum is taking off
<7> I would suggest you go into a College or University
<0> phire: haha
<2> lol
<7> The degree will go further, and your experience will be better
<5> i then went to NEIT, dropped out because i was too lazy to walk 45 minutes to cl***
<4> wacky, check it out :P
<0> daedalus`: so did I
<7> ITT Tech and schools like it attempt to recruit minority students to collect federal grants to support their school
<0> barely graduated
<7> In 2003 they had problems with the FBI
<5> you went to NEIT?
<7> From 2003-2005 they were involved in an international scandal of sorts.. to which the victim was their students
<7> in the form of NIIT books
<4> i don't know anyone that has a job worth a **** that went to ITT
<5> i might take night cl***es at local community college to qualify for UVM
<4> my cousin spent $35k on a 4 year course and he doesn't have **** for a job
<5> i think theres a minimum algebra 2 and some other crap
<8> i dont know anyone that has a decent job that got a CS degree
<0> I got no college
<7> I went to ITT Tech, and I feel I benefitted more from 2 months work experience than I did 2 years going to cl***
<7> Nobody there really gave a ****
<2> i have a decent job
<7> Teachers especially
<0> just gonna go now, as work will pay for it
<2> and i have a CS degree
<8> everyone wants certs these days
<8> degrees are worthless
<7> I got a job merely because I got CompTIA certifications
<7> A degree is a ticket to an intervies
<2> certifications are worthless
<7> view
<2> most HR people ignore resumes that list technical certifications
<7> the certification is the talking point in the interview
<7> Hell no
<2> because if that's all you have to offer..then you **** ;)
<8> i suppose it would depend on what you're looking for in a job too
<2> in the game industry they do
<7> They look at that, no way they don't
<7> References are key
<7> Always have been
<7> But you can't discount a degree and certifications
<7> Since there are jobs that require these are a bare minimum
<5> i kind of want a degree in hardware egineering
<2> comp sci degrees are loving their value
<2> thanks to the great java move
<7> Goto hotjobs right now.. they'll list requiring A+, need an AAS
<8> i'm a high level network/system admin, a CS is worthless for the jobs i want, they all want CCNA and/or MCSE
<7> This that
<4> I dunno, if I were to look at resumes I'd look at experience and job history as well as certifications... Why spend a year and a half getting a degree and learning ever so slowly when you can already ace the tests and get a cert?
<0> phire: I posted :)
<2> more and more CS majors are graduating with really ****ty knowledge in programming
<8> it helps i have 15 years of experience too
<0> for the first time
<0> heh
<7> College degree shows comittment
<4> wacky, yea and you're the moderator :P
<0> haha
<8> meanwhile i was supervisor over 6 guys with a CS and no real life experience
<8> they were all morons
<2> experience will always reign over degrees and certs
<8> college degree shows parents with money or a trust fund, and lots of time to waste
<0> everything I know is self taught
<2> but degrees still hold more repor than certifications and always will
<4> Kuragari, that's the way i see it
<4> heh
<8> Sal_: not in the IT field
<2> yes in the IT field
<4> most people that waste 4 years getting something you can study for and have in a couple weeks just shows me that they really don't know ****.
<8> last i checked there are only 2 degrees for the IT field, CS being the major one
<2> a CS degree looks alot better than being windows certified at ITT
<8> and its outdated to the point that its completely useless in a real job where real IT skills are needed
<2> certifications will get you entry level jobs...that's it
<8> well, being a real network admin i'm not interested in windows certs anyways
<5> certs impress bestbuy and circuit city
<5> thats it
<8> and idiot can get MCSE
<8> any*
<2> exactly!
<2> the only certification that i'll respect is a cisco cert
<8> get a CCNP and see if a degree matters
<4> get a CCIE
<4> and see if it matters
<2> any other one i'll snuff off and laugh at
<8> hell, even a CCNA
<8> i never said a low level cert like A+
<5> you don't need oral certs to work in porn
<8> i mean the worthy ones
<2> lol
<8> porn is not cl***ified as an IT job
<8> unless its developing a website for a porn company, like i am
<8> but even then its borderline :P
<2> lol
<8> bbl
<5> information testicularoloy
<5> or something
<2> all i know is in the game industry we tend to snuff off certs and often only look for a CS degree (other than experience) however CS degrees are becoming weak because graduates arn't learning the stuff they need
<4> daedalus`, having troubles saying that last part
<2> they made the CS program MUCH easier to graduate
<5> i know
<4> testicular oh loy
<4> testicularology
<4> you dumby
<5> game industry would be more impressed with a nice portfolio of mods and textures and models more than anything
<2> debatable
<2> we get a ton of programmer applicants who only know scripting and java...
<2> needless to say they don't get far
<5> who is we
<0> java is useless
<0> for me anyways
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