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<yykov> wrist band must be grounded to case
<jord4385> i just keep my leg touching my metal chair.
<JRWR> and drag the computer across the desk
<_mre|666> i got a nice bench
<jord4385> thats good right?
<jord4385> MrBriggs
<yykov> case must be grounded to wall socket
<_mre|666> i got a aircompressor on it as well... 2 650 and 800w upses
<_mre|666> 4 monitors
<_mre|666> i'll post some pics of it
<yykov> the esd mat must be grouned to cas , an boards kept in pockets on the matt after pulling.
<yykov> 3M kakes a good esd kit
<gh0zt> hey guys, is there a way to tell a powerpoint presentation that when you double click the file, you want to view it in full screen mode rather than edit mode?
<MrBriggs> I dont know what to do
<MrBriggs> I'm so ****in mad righ tnow
<_mre|666> aircompressor used to be used for a nailgun, but it has adjustable controls on it, and we have it set low
<MrBriggs> Nothing happens
<MrBriggs> I hit power.. nothing
<MrBriggs> ARGH
<jord4385> its gotta be the button..
<jord4385> or the board =/
<MrBriggs> jord; I tried swapping the power & reset buttons
<_mre|666> well... easy way to find out
<MrBriggs> Neither will work as power button
<jord4385> can you swap boards?
<MrBriggs> No
<jord4385> well
<MrBriggs> I dont have another 939 board
<_mre|666> jump the power jumper
<jord4385> thats about whawt you narrowed it down to right
<MrBriggs> I have to be sure though
<_mre|666> just need a jumper
<_mre|666> close the switch
<_mre|666> then you'll know if the case is causeing the problem
<MrBriggs> What's your idea?
<_mre|666> well
<_mre|666> you say you suspect the powerswitch
<MrBriggs> It's possible
<_mre|666> use a jumper, and put it on the powerswitch
<MrBriggs> But doubtful because I swapped it from another jumper on the case
<C0mmie> can i slap say two x850 xt's into a crossfire ready mb even though there's no mention of crossfire on the video card box?
<_mre|666> then when you turn on the comp, it'll boot or it won't
<_mre|666> then you'll know
<MrBriggs> Ok
<MrBriggs> What type of jumper should I use?
<MrBriggs> One from the back of a CD-Rom maybe?
<_mre|666> yeah
<MrBriggs> Are you sure this is a good idea?
<Scorpius> yeah all jumpers are the same
<_mre|666> regular jumper
<Scorpius> jumpers are standard
<_rynz-> heh, some big time isp in town doesnt require authentication crednetials
<_rynz-> when trying to make dns a record changes
<_mre|666> that'll tell you atleast if your switch is ok
<_rynz-> for public addresses
<MrBriggs> K well see
<_mre|666> if it boots when you plug it into the psu
<MrBriggs> 1 sec
<_mre|666> you need to fix your switch
<_mre|666> i know all sorts of tricks of narrowing down hardware defects
<MrBriggs> Tried the jumper
<MrBriggs> Still nothing
<_mre|666> heh, that one isn't so much a trick
<_mre|666> then it's not your case switch
<_mre|666> next test the memory
<_mre|666> after that, cpu
<MrBriggs> I have four sticks in there
<MrBriggs> Should I pop a couple out and see?
<_mre|666> try pulling out sticks
<MrBriggs> Would the memory really cause _nothing_ to happen when I flip the switch?
<_mre|666> first, when testing, try booting minimally
<_mre|666> then add
<_mre|666> yep
<_mre|666> it can
<_mre|666> flash your bios too
<_mre|666> try that
<_mre|666> bios might of gotten corrupted
<jord4385> but the leds would still light up...
<jord4385> ruight?
<MercuryTW> good night all
<jord4385> even if you havn't fliped the switch
<_mre|666> no... no necessarily
<jord4385> and the power is running thru.. led still lights
<MercuryTW> good luck with ur build briggs
<MrBriggs> Thanks
<_mre|666> unplug the psu before you jump the bios switch
<MercuryTW> Briggs are u in britan?
<MrBriggs> Nope
<MrBriggs> NY
<MercuryTW> oh ok
<MrBriggs> _mre: Use the CMOS jumper?
<_mre|666> MrBriggs: yeah, move it to the on position
<_mre|666> leave it there for 30 seconds
<_mre|666> with the psu unplugged
<_mre|666> then replace it
<_mre|666> plug in the psu and try powering up
<MrBriggs> Unplugged from the mobo or unplugged from the wall?
<_mre|666> doesn't matter
<_mre|666> either
<MrBriggs> Ok
<_mre|666> just as long as it isn't drawing current
<MrBriggs> I moved the CMOS jumper from x x o to o x x
<_mre|666> yep
<_mre|666> it should be in off position
<_mre|666> you're moving it to on
<_mre|666> for 30 seconds
<_mre|666> then back to off
<MrBriggs> K
<_mre|666> that'll flash your bios
<MrBriggs> Does that jumper even need to be in place?
<MrBriggs> On the left side?
<_mre|666> i charge $45 to do this ****
<_mre|666> why am i telling you how to do this for free? heh :P
<MrBriggs> Haha
<MrBriggs> Ok, put it back now?
<_mre|666> yeah
<_mre|666> try booting
<_mre|666> it work?
<_mre|666> hehe
<_mre|666> i think it did
<_mre|666> amazeing what a bios flash can do :P
<MrBriggs> Still nothing
<DeatyPoo> heh i'm willing to bet 20 with ya that it didn't
<Daveman> ;P
<_mre|666> what? damnit
<DeatyPoo> hehe
<_mre|666> hehe
<_mre|666> he lagged a bit tho
<_mre|666> i was hopeing i did
<MrBriggs> I'm so pissed right now
<_mre|666> i think you got a bad piece or multiple bad pieces of hardware
<DeatyPoo> sorry biggs hardware is almost undebuggable online
<_mre|666> you need to start pulling that memory
<_mre|666> start trying a minimal config
<_mre|666> one stick of ddr
<DeatyPoo> memory would let his leds turn on tho
<_mre|666> instead of 4
<DeatyPoo> even tho it's bad
<_mre|666> no it wouldn't
<_mre|666> memory is one of the first things the mobo tests when booting
<_mre|666> if it doesn't load, he'll get what he's getting now
<DeatyPoo> yeah but the problem seems to be power to begin with
<_mre|666> nothing
<MrBriggs> K
<_mre|666> it could be that as well
<MrBriggs> I already tried pulling mem and still nothing happened
<_mre|666> bad psu
<DeatyPoo> he tried 2
<MrBriggs> Tried two, then tried them on another mobo and they worked fine
<_mre|666> newer psus?
<_mre|666> ok


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