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<0> yes curry64?
<1> lol
<1> ur here
<1> :)
<1> so when u going to hook me up with knowledge of perl
<0> curry64: I realized a mistake I made last night. I think you should learn more about Linux before you take on perl, and other things w/in Linux
<1> yeah but i know how to use windows
<1> therefore i should be fine!
<0> Ah
<0> Well, then let me first ask, what didn't you understand w/ that book?
<1> its not that books
<1> book*
<1> its linux
<0> Ah
<2> linux is the game
<0> Well, I still stand by that book. It's how I started w/ Perl
<1> i dont know how to use it very well
<1> like i was just figurin out how to use the explorer
<2> im actually wirlessly connected to my laptop via vnc and im in the town over from me.......arent I cool?
<1> wait
<0> Nah
<2> and have acess via ssh to my linux server
<0> I've done that using SSH, while I was in Cali
<0> And I live in Ga
<2> ssh is easy
<1> that far away how is that possible?
<2> but vnc is very fast if you both have fast connections
<1> anyways
<2> my laptop is actually on my freinds laptop
<1> what program do i need for windows
<2> shes pissed
<3> you can get a command line anywhere in the world... speed is not an issue unless you do something like remote desktop
<0> go to www.perl.com
<2> i wont teach her
<0> then download ActivePerl\
<0> ActivePerl*
<2> thats what im doing
<2> screw remote desktop MS version tho
<2> i LOVR ultraVNC
<1> ok cool
<1> i will be back in 10 hours
<2> perl is cool
<2> but c is better
<0> bigs_: I don't think C is a beginner's language
<2> oh
<1> is perl
<0> And C isn't necessarily "better"
<0> Just better at different things
<2> didnt know we were talking noob
<2> sorry
<4> Any language is a language that a beginner can learn.
<4> C is just as good as any other.
<2> true that
<4> With any language you just need a good primer.
<2> agreed
<0> I would've rather started on Perl than C
<0> True
<2> gimme cobalt
<2> heheheh
<0> cobalt*
<2> cobalt is a dinasour language
<5> does newegg care, if you use a WORK credit card, if your shipping addy is different from the one that the WORK CC is from
<0> So I hear
<2> you wont see mush cobalt anymore
<6> HAHAHAHA.. this is not work safe.. http://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1152489852243.jpg
<0> My friends mother talked about programming w/ cobalt
<6> you mean cobol?
<1> which package do i need as or mis
<1> msi*
<2> ya ya
<4> A good language for a novice to learn would be ***embly. They would learn exactly how a computer works.
<2> im lazy
<3> troopa, i ran that HouseCall scanner, it found about 10 things but couldn't clean them all... scanning with SpyBot now, think that will get those last few?
<4> Then they could tackle any high-level language with ease.
<0> troopa: There's no way a beginner could keep up the morale to learn that
<4> Filup: I did.
<6> troopa.. ***embly wouldnt really help with learning high level languages, cuz theyre structured totally different..
<0> Ja, and you think just anyone could?
<4> teddyfran: Also try with ewido and a2.
<6> but it will help em understand how computers work
<3> what's a good book to learn ***embly for someone who already knows other languages?
<0> curry64: It doesn't matter, as far as I know
<1> seeya off to work i go :(
<7> can anyone help me
<1> ok no big deal
<7> why my java doesnt load in opera
<4> DVS01: It would teach them about memory management and various aspects like that. It would also teach them about variables, et cetera.
<6> true
<4> So any high-level language would be a snap.
<6> in a way
<2> java is easy and fun......html too
<2> got to disconnect.....see ya when I get back home
<4> teddyfran: ***embly isn't for the faint of heart. It is for a select breed of dork.
<4> There is a lot of work invovled with learning it.
<6> high level languages all share a basic structure
<6> ***embly is different from all of em
<4> A few things you need to learn before you mess with it are base systems and how to convert from X base to Y base, et cetera.
<6> ***embly is actual cpu instructions.. one at a time
<4> You also need to learn how the stack works on the platform you're learning ***embly for.
<7> can anyone help me
<3> damn
<7> why my java doesnt load in opera
<6> store a number in register eax
<0> troopa: I also think it ****s b/c the ASM depends on the architecture
<6> store a number in register ebx
<0> For beginners, that is
<6> add eax to ebx and store result in some other ****
<4> DVS: I didn't mean it would be the same thing.
<6> ***embly isnt very practical for use today unless you need some high speed ****
<4> I just meant they would have already learned the hard stuff.
<6> troopa yea i understand
<6> yup
<4> ***embly is very practicle!
<0> troopa: I really don't see the need to learn ASM anymore really, since it's only useful now for cracking. I mean, nobody really uses old enough computers to justify the savings in execution, and very few ppl will work on data-intensive apps requiring the boost
<4> If you know ***embly you can crack software, inspect software for malicious activity, et cetera.
<7> no 1 like me?
<0> the need for most people to learn ASM*
<6> true
<4> Filup: Most people don't need to learn it, correct.
<6> video game programming also utilizes ***embly code
<4> People who want to specialize in highly technical fields do though.
<6> to speed up certain calculations
<0> troopa: Agreed
<4> IE; finding exploits, reversing malware, cracking, etc.
<8> http://www.plaxo.be/ <-- bahahahaha all about gaywop!
<0> heck, even for writing custom routines for very very resource intensive apps.
<0> Ie, for processing millions of data entries, etc
<4> I could even see the practical use for writing a routine to utilize encryption algorithms.
<4> It would be harder to have a poor implementation in ***embly than any other language.
<0> Oh yeah
<3> yeah none of that sounds like what i want to get into
<4> If someone wanted to learn something for casual programming and fun then I would suggest VB.NET or something.
<4> That is easy to learn and can be fun for a casual coder.
<4> C# would be a good one too.
<3> i started by teaching myself BASIC then later VB
<4> teddyfran: You would have fun with VB.NET or C#
<3> i can't stand MS languages now
<4> Microsoft even offers free basic IDE/compilers for those languages.
<3> i was into PHP for a while and now i'm trying to learn Python so i can use Django
<7> Fil
<4> Python is fun.
<4> I played with that way back in the day.
<0> I agree w/ troopa
<0> I started out w/ Python
<3> C++ was cool but i learned that in school so everything we made was boring and virtually useless
<3> java simply blows
<7> Fil
<4> teddyfran: Well, from the sounds of it then I would suggest either C or PERL.
<0> Yes CoreyGunz?
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