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<0> So they could basically create a distributed network of random computers to run X software.
<0> I'm sure they have used this to install rootkits on most peoples machines.
<0> Especially in the international version of Windows.
<1> And how sure are we that this isn't just freaking paranoia?
<0> Very sure.
<2> Filup, hehe yeah
<3> you have evidence?
<0> The developers made a mistake when relasing a SP, and you could see "NSAKEY" in the debug symbols.
<2> well, i'm not going to not use it just because of that
<0> Once it was found, they quickly released a patch to remove the information.
<1> I mean, other than the occasional game and use of OneNote, I'm in linux, so it's not like it matters that much to me, but... It seems kind of out there.
<0> The keys were named KEY1 and KEY2 after that.
<0> It's true.
<0> cue: My biggest bitch with VISTA is that I am afraid they will try to eventually turn it into a subscription-based OS, or something similar.
<0> Forcing users to create ****ing community accounts to install the OS is the first step to that.
<0> Next thing they will add a spot for credit card information, and software to lock you out if you fail to pay.
<4> myspace xp!
<5> and how is this different from shareware?
<5> and... you can always run linux if you hate windows.
<5> nobody is putting a gun to your head.
<0> nerp: Because M$ can do it, and no one will own their OS.
<3> windows is already subscription based, they're just going to shortent he payment periods
<3> you dont buy windows, you rent it
<0> I do run Linux.
<2> If it came to that, I probably wouldn't go for it but, then again, it would depend on how its set up
<0> I run XP when I want to play games, etc.
<6> if u wanna own the OS, buy the company then...?
<0> But XP isn't so bad.
<0> Especially just for playing games.
<5> i think some of your paranoia about vista is unfounded.
<7> what we need is an open source windows clone to boot games
<2> troopa needs a hug
<0> nerp: Really?
<2> lol
<3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
<0> So Microsoft accidently grabbing credit card and banking information when checking for 'illegal music' and **** is not a privacy threat?
<8> i dont buy or rent windowws i Download it
<8> lol
<2> lol
<5> when is that happening?>
<5> or are you just making it up/ regurgitating some troll on a web forum?
<0> It is happening on "accident" each time their lame *** phone-home software executes.
<8> i would love verification on that NSA matter and will go to linux
<5> vista didn't ask me for my credit card.
<5> and it's not anywhere on my machine
<5> and my mp3s/xvids play fine.
<5> i dunno wtf you're talkin about.
<0> If you enjoy reverse engineering, then watch how that lame component works man.
<0> Don't take my word for it. Watch it yourself.
<6> fight fight fight!
<5> haha ok.
<2> nerp, what version did u install? i have a question about the upgrade ed
<2> of ultimate
<5> vista business retail.
<5> full.
<1> brb, restart
<2> doh nevermind :P
<0> AMDMan: It is true.
<8> is there a legit cracked copy floatin around of that?
<5> there is a workaround for the upgrade to do a clean instal. . .
<2> nerp, yeah that's what i need to know
<5> According to http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/930985/en-us you cannot install an upgrade license of Vista on a clean system; you must install XP first. There's a workaround, though: http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=37711
<2> i have an old win2k license i want to use to upgrade
<8> anyone know what this does
<8> Vivisector.Beast.Within-ViSTA
<5> you can't.
<5> just install vista straight up, don't enter the key
<5> then run it again within the base vista install, upgrade that
<5> :D
<5> read the guide on neowin i pasted.
<6> i got a XP pro key for free...maybe i update to vista someday....
<2> what? lol
<5> you can install vista without a product key or activate it for 30 days
<5> the guide at that link i pasted explains it all
<2> right, but when u do the upgrade ed, doesn't it normally ask for a previous key?
<2> ok reading now.
<6> can i activate XP pro..online..twice?
<5> cue8chalk if it detects a qualifying version, it won't ask for the previous version key. in fact no upgrade asks for the key.
<5> bj0ng0 - sure. if it doesn't, just call the support # and the indian woman at the end of the line will walk you through it manually
<2> wow
<5> there's no real limit to the # of times you can activate.
<8> if i use that crack for xp can i install updates?
<6> nerp - ooh..ok sweet.. ;D
<5> AMDMan - no. get a ****ing job.
<2> well looks like i'll def get the upgrade edition then lol
<8> **** that
<8> i got one and will never spend it on M$
<5> bnj0 - even OEM versions can be transferred. Just tell the support perosn that your mobo fried or something.
<6> damnit, why didnt i write down all the XP keys i saw at the hospital, they run win2k but they have XP licences all over...dang
<8> i own a copy of pro but i like that pirated copies they have more included for some reason
<5> AMDMan - then don't expect to update windows and spend your free time hunting for WGA cracks. enjoy that.
<8> put togher better
<2> nerp, darn you, now i might actually go out and get vista today lol
<8> i got the crack and get all new cracks
<0> AMDMan: autopatcher.com for XP updates or use the Automatic Update service, set it to "notify me before installing/downloading" deslect genuine advantage, and proceed.
<0> Volia. Now you can get the updates you want.
<8> thnx
<0> deselect*
<3> Judging from the wiki article there is no dispute that these keys exist, just who has them. But how are they used?
<6> colbert saved the elephants!!
<3> I know
<3> seems you can replace the nsa key with another one
<0> Yes, you can.
<0> However, since 90% of people don't know about it, they never change it.
<0> There is no telling what software has been executed silently on your machine with it being there for so long.
<3> Looks complicated
<3> and it seems this program uses the key that came with it
<3> Perhaps I'll switch to linux
<1> :)
<4> they be reading yo emailz
<3> oh noes
<4> ohmai
<3> they know where to buy perscription drugs online
<1> and how to make their p3n1s larger
<3> haha
<4> and where to get cheap watches
<2> maybe the NSA keep crashing my computer to get me to upgrade to Vista :O
<4> so they get total control
<4> u think i can cook a poptart on my space heater?
<3> yes
<3> to the pop tart cooking
<2> lol
<4> no
<4> it wont work
<4> it has a safety thing that makes it beep and cutoff when i tip it over
<9> xp ICS sets the network adapter at 168.1.1 right?
<3> so this key allows them to byp*** windows driver signing. but not initiate the install?
<2> duct tape the pop tart to the side
<10> 192.168.1.1 ?
<4> why is your name cue8chalk
<2> lol
<4> did u eat chalk?
<2> yes :(
<4> rockin
<6> toxin
<9> yes compdoc
<4> was it the plain white kind
<4> or the yellow
<3> must have been the blue pool chalk
<2> it was the blue stuff
<4> oh i forgot all about that kind
<2> tastes salty
<2> and bitter
<4> does it get you high?
<2> maybe if you eat enough of it lol
<3> mandriva linux or suse?
<1> I prefer Ubuntu, Slackware, and Knoppix
<0> SuSe might be cool, but Ubuntu does make for a pretty nice desktop solution, honestly.
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