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<0> well i dun wanna buy no name
<0> i just don't wanna sepdn 100+
<0> what about enermax
<1> suppose to be good:)
<1> never tried em though
<0> wel **** they are $80
<0> is this ocz stuff quiet?
<1> me I bought the riced up OCZ cause I was getting pissed with my system.... and most importantly it smiles back at me;P
<1> yes it is
<2> ``Spike: One word for ya
<1> http://www.auphanonline.com/articles/view.php?article_id=1472&page=4
<2> ``Spike: Antec
<0> i use to love antec
<0> but i heard that lately alot of people are having problems with them
<1> my chipset fan is antec:P
<2> Only if you buy the economic series of their low end PSUs
<1> copper low profile
<2> OCZ PSUs are heavliy overpriced
<1> but they're good:P
<1> I won't complain with that Takuma said though they're likely overpriced:P
<2> ``Spike: The truePOwer models of Antec are still the most reliable PSUs on the market
<2> Just don't get the Antec SmartPowers
<2> They are low-end economic series PSUs
<1> anyone know what size is a chipset fan?
<1> ;P
<2> The TruePOwer II PSUs were still the best PSUs around
<2> nosun: That is limited to your PC-case.
<2> My chipset cooler is huge, mainly because it is a p***ive one
<0> okay
<0> i'm looking at them now
<2> And it fits inside my case
<2> nosun: Some PC-cases with some videocards limit a lot the size of the chipset fan
<2> Others don't.
<1> I'm gonna take a gamble and say its 40mm
<1> :P
<2> Depends on size of videocard and size of PC-case
<0> Also at Fry's is the antec TruePower Trio 550W PS for $70 (no rebates).
<0> # 4991681
<0> so that'd probably be a pretty safe bet?
<2> Yes.
<2> How much wattage you need?
<0> 300-400
<0> but i've got a server full of hdd's that i could put the 550 in and take the antec 420 out of it and use it for the new desktop
<0> i definately don't need more than 400
<0> 1 10k rpm drive, 2 dvd burners, wifi card, and proc
<2> What videocard?
<2> Get perhaps TruePower 430 PEC
<2> 430 Watts will be enough
<2> or get the Antec Phantom 300 Watt with no fan
<2> Oh. Nevermind. They only sell the 500W variety of the phantom
<2> ``Spike: This will most likely be your best bet
<2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103935
<0> heh
<0> that's a smart power though
<0> Avoid at all cost!
<0> Reviewed By: JR on 2/7/2007 Reviewed By: JR on 2/7/2007 Rating + 1
<0> Tech Level Tech Level: high - Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
<0> Pros: None
<0> Cons: It died after only a month of use. It now makes an ultra loud high pitch noise and shuts down after only a few minutes. Worst power supply that I have ever use.
<0> heh
<2> Oh yeah
<2> Sorry.
<2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103942
<2> That one then
<2> Kind of pricy though
<2> Then again, I spent $80 on my TruePower 430 Watt
<2> Not nearly as pricy as OCZ though
<3> i spent |----| much on my PSU
<3> for this machine
<3> not like |----------| for the one in my server
<3> heh
<2> Being experienced with hardware failure in PCs, I can tell you with ***urance that 80% of hardware failure is directly related to faulty PSU.
<3> indeed
<2> Hence, spending 70 bucks for a good PSU is a wise and not too expensive choice
<4> aye
<2> People easily claim that heat dissipation and overheating issues are the #1 killer of hardware in PCs.
<2> That is a blatant lie.
<0> heh
<4> A crappy, unclean power source can destroy components.
<0> i might as well go with the 550 for $70 though
<0> and it's local, up at fries
<2> Because heat will *EVENTUALLY* kill your equipment - within say weeks or even months
<2> But a faulty PSU will fry your equipment in 0.00000987124 seconds.
<0> then i can put that into one my servers that has a 420 or 430 in it, and put that 420-430 into my desktop
<0> i have HUGE heat problems
<4> But, what can kill your PSU, is unclean power from your outlet. =P
<2> ``Spike: I wouldn't buy a 550 Watt PSU if you aren't going to even come close to that count.
<0> there's belkin batteries between all my power outlets and all my machines
<0> well in the filserver in the closet, there's 8 300-500GB drives
<0> heh
<2> I use a power outlet modulator that is safe against thunder and ****.
<4> Usually, homes have their entire circuits on one ground.. Providing your computers with their own isolated ground drastically reduces the amount of line noise your PSU will see and have to deal with.
<2> ``Spike: Hatddrives don't require much power actually.
<0> hmmm
<2> It's mostly them crazy videocards with crazy fans on them that require lots of lots of juice.
<0> i don't do alot of video
<2> I have 4 HDDs in my PC that uses 430 watts PSU.
<0> i drive 3 lcds, i'm gonna do it with 1 pci-e card (dual headed) and one pci card (single headed)
<0> right now there's 8 in that machine with the 430 psu
<0> thanks for the advice though
<2> You are welcome
<0> i waws hesitant to buy another antec, i heard they weren't doing so well anymore.
<2> The smartpowers aren't.
<2> TruePower however is still flawless
<0> good deal.
<0> that's what i've got my servers running on too
<0> i only paid around $40 for each 430 watter though
<2> Don't get me wrong
<2> Enermax makes nice PSUs too.
<5> I can't wait to get a 500W psu... thanks video card makers!
<2> Hehehe
<2> Be happy SLI ain't manditory
<5> Heh SLI is lowtech junk
<0> sli?
<5> Shuold have dual core GPUs... GPU production and tech is literally 7years behind.
<0> ahh
<0> heh
<0> i don't play games/play with graphics, so i know nothing about graphics cards
<0> i'm happy with hdd r&d recently though, hdd's have come way down in price
<5> Power hungry, non-modular PCBs, no onboard physics, no modular ram bays/GPU, Single core... lmfao
<0> i'd like to see 500GB for
<0> <$100 everywhere though
<2> ``Spike: SLI = motherboards that can take 2 videocards at the same time and in theory double the preformance.
<5> The Vidcard industry flat out ****s as far as engineering innovation is concerned.
<2> ``Spike: Well, isn't 320GB around $90 nowdays?
<0> i want a mothnerboard that'll take two agp vid cards so that i can have my 3 screens all agp
<0> yup
<0> $130-$150 for 500GB
<0> and i like this new perp tech to
<2> With 2 videocards you can have 4 screens
<2> I'm using 2 screens with 1 videocard
<0> well ****
<0> i wish i'd known this before i bought my new board
<0> i have to use a pci-e card and a pci card for my video
<5> Oh... an there's no way in HELL even the best vid card 8800XXXTXTTTC is even CLOSE to being worth $500+ which you could get a top of the line mobo with build on everything and a 2.4Ghz DualCore CPU for about the same price or less.
<5> People are geting fleeced.
<5> No, RAPED.
<0> hh
<0> i was upset having to pay $70 for the pci-e card i did
<0> hell i was upset my agp card wouldn't just work with it
<0> i can't beleive the lack of agp support on m/b's that support am2
<5> Yeah would be nice to have a legacy AGP 8x port
<0> heh
<0> 18gb hdd
<0> heh
<0> i can't wait to get this new machine up and running, its going to be nice to have a decent speed drive, i haven't played with sata on my desktop yet
<0> gotta 36gb 10k 16mb raptor coming
<6> raptors are nice
<6> i have one
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