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<0> right.
<1> you have to understand
<1> modern things like agp, pci bus, ide
<2> i'm thinking of getting vista x64 just because pro with sp2 = raped by any sort of spyware/viruses...i'd like something that isn't so suseptible..or however you spell that
<1> use what's called dma and memory mapped i/o
<0> i know flyback
<1> they actually appear like ram the cpu can access as ram to get data for memory mapped i/o
<1> and dma means they can stick data right into ram without the cpu's help
<1> but they have to be able to "see" address all that ram
<0> i know hehe i'm a programmer
<1> ah ok :0
<1> yeah that's right didn't think of that
<3> wh0re[b4g: How about Linux? No trojans, viruses, no problems what so ever.
<2> i don't know...keep going...lol
<1> whore google it
<2> lol



<1> better than I can explain
<1> NO DUDE
<1> I am serious
<4> Linux doesn't have trojans viruses or problems since it got no enough attention
<4> it's like FireFox
<4> at the beginning everybody said "Firefox is more secure!"
<4> and ppl started to download and got attention
<1> sc0rp
<1> that's not totally true
<4> since last year Firefox has more security vulnerabilities every month than IE
<1> linux implemented better security in some cases
<4> and haven't stopped.
<1> so does firefox
<4> yeah of course
<1> it's just now the bugs are getting shakken out
<1> :P
<1> I mean look at the latest windows bug
<2> linux...the problem i have with unix is that yeah...the main core is the same but there are way too many variations...and its a pain to learn them
<4> I mean Unix is better, it's ok, but if everybody uses Linux, I mean *everybody*, it would have 100 updates every week
<1> wmf vunerablility
<1> WHO THE **** ALLOWS A PICTURE FILE FORMAT TO EXECUTE COMMANDS
<4> since Linux is an open source **** and open source ****s are the ****s that have more bugs ever since there's a lot of stupid ppl programming on it
<1> HOW ****ING STUPID IS THAT
<4> wow lots of disks
<2> lol...thats less than half
<2> i have 11
<0> ok can anyone point me to a resource that explains all the 80,000 diff amd cpus lol
<2> 5 120gb's pata, 4 200gb's sata, 2 160gb's pata, and a 250gb sata
<2> i mean...12
<3> cuebix: Of the 80'000 different CPUs out there, the ones that will fit into your needs and pricerange are probably less than 3.
<5> lol
<5> crashed my IRC
<5> CPU Info: (-AMD , 2412MHz (0% Load))
<5> Operating System: (Windows Professional 2003 5.2 Service Pack 1 (Build #3790)) Uptime: (h 31m 6s) Record: (d 2h 2m 50s 96ms set on Sat Jan 07 18:18:13 2006)
<5> Memory Usage: (Usage: 503/2048MB (24.56%)) (|||||||-----------------------) Display Info: (0x1024 32bit 75Hz) Monitor: (" AG Neovo TFT Flat Panel)
<5> CPU Info: (-AMD , 2412MHz (0% Load)) Temperature: (Deactivated by user)
<5> Hard Disks: (Total/Free: .25/.62GB Total/Free space on: C: .48/.83GB F: .76/.79GB)
<5> Connection/Network Interfaces: (#1 (NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller (1000Mb/s) 0.00MB In, 0.00MB Out) #2(Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (100Mb/s) 449.91MB In, 17.06MB Out))
<5> there we go
<2> if i didn't have this stupid ****ing tenga.gen virus on my other pc i'd be on that
<5> reformat ?
<5> hang on thats wrong
<5> my tft is 19"
<2> that would be the 4th time since i got it...man i've been ****ing up all over the place with this install..lol
<6> is there a way to determine what kind of RAM im running other than opening up my case?
<0> hiphopguy: www.cpuid.com download cpu-z
<5> yeh your bios will tell u
<5> or that
<0> the bios doesn't always make it clear cut. cpu-z gives you all the info you need about the chip
<6> thanks
<0> np
<2> lol cuebix...way to spread the word bird
<0> hehe i gotta give back, y'know :)
<0> you guys have helped me tons
<0> man... 600 beans for the mobo and processor lol sheesh
<2> you don't need to go dual core
<7> ok..so this is my main computer...
<6> would a PC133 SDRAM work on a PC100 bank?
<1> most of the time yes
<1> but
<0> i know. i'm trying to price out the ideal situation though



<7> yes...it will just downclock to pc100 speads
<1> some newer p133 is high density
<7> speeds*
<1> and those might not work in a older board
<7> true
<1> like most PII and p3 boards need 128 meg sticks to be 8 or 16 chips
<1> and 256 can only be 16 chip type
<1> and over 256 just doesn't work
<6> will i know if its high density by looking at it? or is it something i'll only know by plugging it in
<0> whore: what's the next best amd processor after the dual core ones?
<1> yes count the number of chips
<1> vs the size
<1> CANUCKguy!
<0> LOL
<7> i would say go for just a a64
<7> man..i don't remember the cores for them all...lol
<0> LOL
<6> fly its me satchelp
<0> catawalks, that's the problem i'm having .. i don't know what it all means lol it's been a long time since i bought a cpu, especially an AMD
<8> venice / san diego
<9> Thanks for the +v
<7> cuebix
<7> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=219&num=1
<0> catawalks, thanks a million :)
<7> you can call me wh0re
<7> lol
<7> 1HardDrive Total: (1235.02GB)
<7> 1HardDrive Used: (618.08GB)
<7> 1HardDrive Left: (616.94GB)
<0> oh they use compiling as one of their benchmark tests - good deal
<0> omg does that say G as in gig? LOL
<5> well i recently built a new PC
<7> yeah
<7> lol
<0> that's insane
<5> and im very happy with my san diego 4000+
<7> still have three hdd's not hooked up
<0> Awaken`: really?
<5> tis good bang for buck
<7> 1Operating System Enterprise Server (5.2 - 3790)
<7> 1Uptime 14mins 14secs 1Record 14mins 14secs
<7> 1HardDrive Total: (39.06GB) Used: (5.16GB) Left: (33.9GB) 1Memory Usage: 515/1024MB (50.29%) [||||||||||]
<7> 1Current Date/Time Saturday January 7th 03:10:14pm 2006
<7> 1Display 1600x1200 32bit 60Hz 1Video Card NVIDIA GeForce 6600
<7> 1My Power I own people. and am opped in out of the channel(s) I'm in.
<7> 1Network#1 (NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller (1000Mb/s) 26.43MB In, 8.16MB Out)
<7> 1Processor 2-AMD , 2211MHz (0% Load) Using: 2256.938006MHz
<5> not stupid money like the FX and dual cores
<0> catawalks, i could use a hard drive y'know, new pc and all lol, wanna send one this way? you won't miss it
<5> socket 939, good performance
<5> the san diego has 1mb l2 cache
<5> helps too
<5> tis good all round
<7> sorry flyback
<0> Awaken`: yeah, i just read that
<1> NP :)
<0> very helpful i'd imagine
<5> the venice 3700+ is probably the best value chip
<5> but i wanted the psychological "ooo" factor of 4000+
<5> :)
<0> i need performance lol, but i'm going to read this review on both of them first
<7> lol
<0> ok so an amd athalon64 cpu with 1m cache is the san diego, right?
<0> hm wait this is confusing lol
<8> 3700+ san diego
<0> ok
<0> rev E4, right?
<5> or a clawhammer
<5> lol
<8> avoid the clawhammers
<5> E4 = san diego = socket 939, latest athlon, 1mb cache
<8> you want e4 revisions


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