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<0> i like brandnames.
<1> Not entirely true... a CL2 stick is better than a CL4 stick
<1> ;p
<1> Corsair XMS is good ram
<1> justn
<0> im happy with this kingston hyperx stuff
<1> thats good ram too
<2> bach turner overdrive
<1> speaking of good ram
<1> ;p
<2> yay
<3> jello
<2> potato people
<3> oh, Hi phire
<1> Heh anyone read Maxim?
<3> rememebr me?
<4> read?
<2> yes
<5> CANUCK
<4> i've "looked" at maxim before
<5> CANUCK
<4> cant say i ever read it
<1> their Found Porn section.. funny ****
<6> lool
<1> ive got two things i guarantee will get published
<3> we played chess 2 years ago i think.
<2> hello potato people
<6> ummm i wanna install ilinux on a computer i have ...at my parents house...but i wanna have like full remote acess to it
<1> i was at the grocery store today... found one of those seasoning packs... its a drawing of a rooster and it says "Cock Flavoured Soup Mix"
<6> how do i do this lol
<2> doubtful but possible
<1> Quinton: VNC
<6> ahh
<6> thats the only way
<1> thats the best way
<6> cant i run a shell on it or somehting ?
<6> ahh ok
<1> you could
<4> best way?
<4> wtf
<1> but you wouldnt have access to gnome or kde
<4> ssh is more lkely
<1> Kuragari: ssh isnt "full remote access" if its an xwindows box
<4> vnc is lame
<1> are you kidding?
<4> ssh is FULL access on any linux box
<6> ahh ok
<1> what is lame about being able to connect to a linux box from any platform and lookj like you're at console even with gnome/kde?
<4> vnc is pro people that are handicapped without a mouse
<6> lool
<4> s/pro/for
<1> thats extremely short-sighted
<4> and, vnc only works if the box automaticly logs into X
<4> which is a security hazard btw
<1> Kuragari: as is the case with desktop linux
<7> i love vnc
<1> its a great tool
<4> so, in the event of a power outage, you can no longer remotely vnc to your box
<7> Kuragari: not true about it only working if the box automatically logging into x
<1> of course my freebsd servers i ssh into because i only need text-based access
<4> ssh however always works
<0> vnc is pretty slow
<4> that too
<8> i just purchased 2GB of RAM, should i include my old 512mb of ram also?
<7> Kuragari: i had a setup on my laptop where its loading was optional
<4> ssh is easily realtime on dialup
<0> and has some pretty flawed security i hear
<4> vnc is slow on 3mbit cable
<1> but, my freebsd desktop machine which i vnc into from my windows box at work... ssh is worthless
<9> Kuragari: u can always ssh in, run 'startx & x11vnc -display :0' then login via vnc
<7> vnc is fast for me over 1mbit
<4> it also depends on how you configure it, what resolution etc etc
<9> rdesktop is the best
<4> but ssh is still more reliable and faster
<9> only thing remotely usabvle in 56K modem
<1> and lets not forget.. if the guy is an all command-line linux user, hes not going to join #computers and ask how to access it remotely.
<1> so VNC is the logical answer
<7> rdesktop is annoying
<4> despy: he didnt say what he needed remotely
<6> yea i dont have alot of bandwidth when im away from home
<6> so ssh might work better
<7> flyback- that wasnt the correct hostmask
<1> Quinton: what are you interested in remotely accessing/>
<4> if he wants to setup a ftp box to sit at his parents house, ssh is all that's needed
<1> yep
<4> besides, X uses up resources that dont belong on a server
<1> but thats not "full remote access"
<6> yes i wanna do that ...run it at my parents house
<6> and after i want to use the box as a webserver
<6> to serve sites
<4> despy: it's full access, minus graphics
<6> well one site at least lol
<7> vnc gives me what i need when i want to use my windows box remotely without interrupting its active session
<7> what do you define as 'full remote access'?
<2> buttplugs
<4> i figure it this way
<1> i consider "full remote access" full remote access to everything the machine has on it
<6> can i run prorgams and stuff using ssh...this is gonna take a while for me to learn the linux commans isnt it
<1> hence "full acces" and "remote"
<4> even when sitting at the linux box using gnome or kde or whatever, you still have to open a terminal to do things
<7> yeah you can run programs using ssh.. it lets you interact with a shell prompt.. one of the standard ways of manipulating the operating system
<4> so, a terminal has more access than the GUI
<4> therefore
<4> full access = ssh
<6> lool
<1> whatever man
<1> heh
<7> you guys are arguing over abstract ideas
<7> itll get you nowhere
<6> does linux have a built in ssh thing
<1> most distros include openssh
<7> Quinton: its standard on pretty much every distro
<4> otherwise he's gonna load up vnc to run on bloated X (for a webserver no less) then open a terminal in X to do things
<4> seems a little redundant to me
<1> Kuragari: if he wants to play ksmiletris
<1> how do you do that via ssh?
<4> why would someone play games remotely?
<2> port using the ncurses lib
<1> ive vnc'd into my linux box for that exact reason before
<1> heh
<2> :>
<1> well yea phire
<6> looll
<1> but thats much more involved than just loading vnc
<6> whats he talking about
<6> port?
<2> re-code the software
<1> making a linux program run on other o/s basically
<1> Kuragari: thats not the question. the question was 'how' if ssh is full remote access.
<1> you cant
<1> so it is limited
<1> i think you can agree with that?
<6> lol
<6> ahh
<4> as far as it being limited graphicly, yes
<5> hmm
<5> wonder if I can bios hack this laptop
<7> ssh is full remote access to a shell, including terminal emulation n ****
<6> ok now
<5> put ina bigger bios chip with the bios code + a user program bootloader
<5> tell it to load from pcmcia or something
<6> never really used linux or installed it
<4> but i'm never remotely accessed a computer to play games
<6> what do i do
<6> i go debian
<6> got
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