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<0> a local dealer
<0> here
<1> newegg or some u know or a shop
<0> a shop
<1> ok
<1> so u get the 189 money back guarranted
<0> yes
<1> do u still have your 4x mobo with your 32 bit sempron
<1> 3000
<0> but why does it stop booting when it rains outside ?
<0> yes
<1> sensor
<1> maybe
<0> still have my 4x mobo asrock
<0> humidity sensor ??
<0> on mobo ??
<1> so u can sell that one ebay with the sempron cpu for a cheap price
<1> say 50+ bux
<0> well no i want to keep the sempron setup to run at same time
<0> in network
<1> so u get 500 ram, amd 3200, a very low price nforce4 motherboard
<1> thats teh best offer
<1> for the money
<1> so u got 2 cases, 2 power supplies 2 sets of ram etc
<0> so its ok if the amd 3200 64bit chip only has a small l2 ?
<1> yes
<1> it aint small
<1> it dont utilise it
<1> ive checked it upp
<1> everyone ask that question
<0> 512 mb l2 on the amd right ?
<1> the extra 512 mb cache makes out 200mhz in some cases, just some cases
<1> so u wont notice it
<1> but u can buy cpu at ebay for even less
<1> but 160 bux is good price i guess for 3200 amd venice
<0> i can buy an amd 64 + biostar mobo for 130$ locally now
<1> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128307
<1> nice
<0> might only be 3000 mhz tho
<1> doesnt matter
<1> its 1.8 ghz
<0> is that a good deal then ?
<1> 3200 is 2.0 ghz
<1> yes it is
<1> very good deal
<1> its better to get the 3000 cause its so much less in price
<1> they dont even sell it anymore in the shops
<1> they only sell 3200 as the lowest cpu
<1> well ull find it
<1> but I think they dont produce it atleast
<0> yes ok
<1> and u can overclock it
<1> to 2.2
<1> atleast 2.2
<1> 2.0
<0> oh good ok, but depends on the mobo right ?
<1> in the bios
<1> on the bios it depends
<0> is biostar ok for mobo ?
<1> why so good price is it used
<1> never heard about it
<1> just get it
<0> no its new
<1> its a pirate price
<1> bet it
<0> biostar is like pcchips i think
<0> like asrock too
<1> what u said the price was
<0> $130
<1> wow
<1> the 3200 new costs 170 bux
<1> u get almost the same for 130+ mobo
<0> unless im thinking about the 32bit amd
<1> go for it
<0> pretty sure its 64bit amd
<1> no more question and buy extra 512 ram wich is same cas as the one u have
<1> well it has to be
<1> if not hes selling u a sempron
<1> and make sure its 939
<1> not 754
<1> and elder type of amd
<1> well u can buy it anyways
<1> cause its cheap
<1> maybe its a n 754 system, hence the cheap price
<1> but remember it aint much for u
<1> going from that sempron to either 2.7 or 3000
<1> and u can run all cards with 4x mobo
<1> mostly
<0> aint much?
<1> the sempron u have is what like 1.6 1.8 ghz?
<1> budgett cpu with low cache system
<2> Yes.
<1> well, i can relly talk more cause u need to find out what stuff it is, if its a 64 bit cpu
<0> its prolly the amd 64b 2.8
<2> Low cache ****s. =p
<1> all them idiots
<0> 512 l2 cache is ok for amd
<1> put a vhs down your troath shut the **** upp
<1> more than ok
<0> agp, do u know of a good benchmark comparison btw my p4 2.7ghz 64bit setup and the 2.8ghz amd 64bit setup ?
<1> cache is like a wagon between a and b
<0> a good website i mean
<1> cache wagon carries 24 crates of beer
<0> not toms tho
<1> 24 crates of beer is 512 cache
<0> i hear toms is no good
<1> its a good flow of doing it in that order
<1> sometimes in a program it has 2 crates of beer
<1> thats 48 beer but only 10% of the time 90 % of the time its only 1 crates of beer
<1> so basicly u dont use that extra cache system much upp
<1> so its between 6% better
<0> 6% only ?
<1> from 3-9% in general and 18% in doom 3 i think it was that extra cache system
<0> oh u mean about l2
<1> not in cpu speed but in cache speed
<0> ok
<1> yes
<1> l2 only not mhz
<1> so u understand now why the extra transport system that covers that 10% makes out an extra 200 mhz hence 3500 is 2.2 ghz 512 cache and 3700 is 2.2 ghz and 1012 cache,
<1> 200 virtual mhz extra due to cache system
<0> yes ok
<1> thats what i learned
<1> its starts at 3000 and ends at 4000
<0> so about how much better benchmarks btw the p4 and amd setup i wonder?
<1> from 100 bux to 1000 bux
<1> and between 3000 and 4000 it aint that much difference but noticeable yes
<0> irregardless of l2
<1> intel win in something that amd dont win in,but amd wins in all computer games, i think, and amd cpu is good to pull nvidia and ati cores
<1> to there makes fps framerate
<1> so u can play a smooth doom 3 game or bf2 , quake 4
<1> but u will play smooth without doubht even with a pentium 3.o mhz
<1> so when it comes to effects, high resolution, flattening out the corners in grafpchics, fast grapvhics, u need more ram, the extra cpu power and cache system are utilized, more heat, more power, u need better cooliung, u migth even want to overclock it,
<1> ferrari factor
<1> but cheap cars run fast to
<1> looks good
<1> the ferrari factor costs a fortune
<0> where can i find the rivatuner.exe i wonder
<1> guru3d.com
<1> there will alsow be a web setup
<1> with images
<0> ahh ok i see it i think
<1> its like 4-5 steps
<1> important do not do anything else in there
<1> and apply settings so when u restart machine
<1> it wont go back to default
<1> but to the new changes
<0> ahh okie
<1> but it works for some 6200 and some not
<1> it worked with aopen
<1> may it work with xfx
<1> and if it works
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