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<0> compressions does **** all for what matters.
<0> videos, pictures, etc.
<1> if you use compression it'll FEELS like 32k/sec but only 15.625 kilobytes of data go through the cable per second
<1> but max speed using both ISDN channels is 128 kbps, period. :P
<2> i've never seen a dialup provider do native compression
<3> stac
<0> I'll just say 128kbps instead now then...
<1> well Stac is not used 'cos of royalties
<0> Wait.. Who says that kilobits has to mean 1000 bits? Shouldn't it be 1024 bits because of the way binary works?
<4> yeah it actually is
<3> stac is used all over the place
<1> and actually STAC compression doesn't work really well when you're downloading pr0n in DivX for example
<3> Portmaster 3's had a daughter card that you could install
<1> you'll get 15,625 KB/sec anyway in your pr0n download.
<0> EneergE, yeah it is 1000 bits or yeah it is 1024 bits?
<1> 1000 bits
<1> 1 kbps = 1000 bps
<1> 1 KB = 1024 bytes
<1> now
<5> <7> I'm so happy to be the only one of all my family that's left alive...yes..my mommie didn't have any children who lived :(. PITTY ME!
<1> I can't believe ISDN is still used nowadays.
<1> let's say, it's hard to believe
<3> ISDN is used everywhere
<3> buisnesses, most of them are on ISDN, you have 2 b channels and a d
<6> You think that's bad, I know people who still have one-way satellite
<1> where in the world is that
<1> most business here have G.SHDSL lines
<3> all over the US
<1> (2 Mbps)
<3> they do? so a shoe store that needs fax, phone, and credit card line needs 2 megabits
<3> QWest sells more ISDN and PRI than T-1
<1> well those little business use ADSL here.
<3> ISDN here is cheaper
<1> and ADSL is cheap in 2 Mbps.
<1> ok you pay here like $100 for a 2 Mbps ADSL line
<1> and like $40 for a 512 kbps one
<1> a month
<3> ISDN here is $54.99
<1> too expensive.
<1> for just 128 kbps, it's too much
<3> for 2 lines and a d channel?
<3> it isnt about data
<3> it is about flexibility
<3> phone lines and credit card transactions
<1> well ADSL is also flexible, you use the same phone line the business has :)
<1> but somehow
<3> the ISDN line is the phone line and the data all on one bill, no DSL line charge and then a telephone line charge
<1> I still prefer cable for myself hehe
<3> and remember, this is buisness lines, they rape you on DSL for buisness
<1> not here
<1> business pay something like $35.99 for a 512 kbps line
<0> ISDN PRI is T1
<1> well i's 23 B channels!
<3> ISDN is a BRI
<3> and damn that stinks
<3> I knew I shouldnt have ate the beans tonight
<1> ISDN PRI in Europe though is 31 B channels
<1> for 1.984 Mbps + 1 D channel 64 kbps
<0> Scorpius, that's E1
<1> yeah
<1> and E3 is 45 Mbps
<1> heh
<7> muscleboy CANUCKboy
<0> E3 would own.
<1> and ATM is OC-3
<1> 155.52 Mbps
<1> and a OC-255 if that exist is 13.21 Gbps
<3> ISDN is damn awesome for playing online games :)
<1> but I do know OC-192 exist and it's 9.952 Gbps
<1> hehe
<3> man the ping times are excellent
<0> FenrisWf, not really. The bandwidth saturation kills your ping times.
<0> Especially when someone is on the phone.
<0> ISDN in my opinion has pretty average ping times.
<3> you must have had some ****ty ISDN
<0> No, I don't.
<3> cause when I had ISDN my pings were excellent
<3> and I didnt use it for anything other than an occasional fax and the credit card machine
<0> Pings for what game?
<3> anything I was playing
<0> And where do you live?
<3> Nebraska
<0> And where is the server located?
<3> Chicago
<0> How far away is that?
<3> 500 miles at least
<0> About 200ms ping time right?
<3> and I guess you are going to school me now
<3> please
<0> What kind of ping times for the Chicago server?
<3> around 50
<3> hey tons
<3> I wonder if zieter ever ordered that machine
<0> Oh, that's probably because of the equipment used between your exchange and the chicago exchange. Probably good optical fibre stuff. That's probably why you think they have good ping times. But hey, they are good ping times, and I can see why you think so now.
<3> I got good ping times all over the place
<0> Yeah, once you get onto the optical network, your data goes cruising.
<3> QWest just does bulk bandwidth well
<0> bulk bandwidth?
<3> they dont do **** else worth a **** though
<3> yeah, just selling you bandwidth, not DSL, not cable, ie, T-1's, etc
<3> we had 2 T-1's and an ISDN line in
<3> both lines came in to a Larscom
<3> QWest doesnt do DSL well at all
<1> I wonder if I'm hungry or so
<3> the only residential that they do well here is cable
<3> they bought USWest who had cable out in west omaha and that cable is way better than what Cox offers the rest of the city
<0> Back.
<0> Sounds like ISDN isn't too bad in USA. But then again, USA has aweswome bandwidth paths. Whereas Australia's main backbone is 2Gbps or so.
<3> it ****s just as bad here
<3> probably worse
<3> ****ing nazi's wanting outrageous prices on broadband
<0> I've had 3 or 4 different ISDN ISPs.
<0> So, I doubt it's my ISP or something like that.
<3> wireless is taking off here though in certain cities
<3> www.pinn.net check them out
<0> Wireless ****s.. Especially for VOIP or video.
<3> friend is part owner of that outfit
<3> there is a place here in town, I think it is jagwirless.net, sells some good wireless
<0> I can't believe you're complaining about your DSL prices.. LOL
<3> you cant get DSL where I am
<3> it is spotty
<0> In Australia, 1.5Mbit true unlimited is about $130 a month.
<8> [NMP3] - Matisyahu - King Without A Crown.mp3
<3> sync or async?
<0> Asynchronous.
<3> what is the upstream
<0> 1500/256
<3> are you metered?
<0> 1500kbps down and 256kbps up.
<0> On my ISDN? No.
<3> no, that DSL, if you dont get true unlimited is it metered
<0> I've never had a metered ISP ever since my 2nd ISP.
<0> Yeah, it gets metered.
<0> And you get shaped, charged, or disconnected.
<3> that would blow hard
<0> You better believe it.
<0> It's ****ed up.
<0> The Australian government is a bunch of left wing nut jobs.
<0> John Howard is a left-wing-nut-job
<9> anyone in b.c.?
<0> He sold Australia's copper infrastructure to the sharemarket.
<0> Haha, now we're all screwed.
<3> I think that in the next 20 years, we will see a revolt in a major country
<10> how do i calculate this? if IE says i'm downloading at 124 kb/sec and the filesize is 870mb, how long until finish?
<0> RickyRayY, the first step is admitting that IE is a piece of ****.
<10> IE is a pos
<10> that has worked fine for me always
<0> lol
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