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<0> they were at rockbottom right before the Rev started getting good hype
<1> there going to come up with something
<1> in genius
<1> i agree
<1> but it will be awhile
<2> man
<3> if they don't do what MS did with it's console they giong to die.. just put PC parts in a box and call it console
<2> I really love my desk
<0> May
<2> it's really sad
<0> We'll hear more about the rev in May
<2> loving my workspace so much
<2> may/man
<0> and it will be released in November
<1> nah
<1> i think ur wrong
<0> it'll at least be a very popular second console
<0> if everyone who buys the PS3 and 360 buys a revo as a cheap second console
<0> it will outsell both
<2> people buy nintendo for the games, not the tech
<1> hmm...
<2> nintendo plays to profit, not to win
<1> true very true if i may say
<0> DS's tech is ****
<2> nintendo isn't competing with sony/M$
<0> but it still killed the PSP
<1> i didnt buy a gamecube for it
<3> iNToIT ppl? the old ppl or the younger generation
<1> i did for the games
<2> Lozer2 huh
<1> intoit is correct
<0> Nintendo is competing with profit
<1> who buys a nintendo console for the technology in it
<0> they just want to make money
<0> N64 has good tech
<0> had
<2> sony and M$ want to dominate
<0> SNES had better specialized hardware than Genesis
<0> Intoit: Ya and they'll be at eachother's throats
<0> Nintendo will be overlooked
<0> and people could very well buy Revolutions without really thinking about it
<2> overlooked? by whom?
<1> people will buy revolutions
<2> yep
<2> they absolutely will
<1> for the games tho
<0> Do you really believe Sony and MS are going to bother trying to compete with lil ole nintendo?
<1> not for the technology cuz i know 360 and ps3 are still way ahead
<0> the rev's tech is ****
<0> the games are the only reason to buy it or any console
<2> Dupper, they target different market segments
<2> some of their market overlaps, but not in direct competition
<0> the DS and PSP is the metaphor for the Rev and PS3/360
<0> they were considered different markets basically
<0> but the DS still obliterated the PSP
<2> nintento, M$ and Sony do compete against eachother on game titles, not on the hardware
<2> M$ and Sony comepete on the hardware
<2> *compete
<0> Actually, game titles they may be even less competitive
<0> MS tends towards realistic simulation for mature audiences
<2> They're competing for the same game dollars
<0> Sony tends towards arcade simulation for mature audiences and Japanese games
<1> ms loves me
<2> a family with $300/yr to spend on software titles..
<1> wow thats sad
<0> And Nintendo tends towards what I can only call game games
<2> the question is where do they spend it
<0> Rev games will be 30-40
<2> curryjl10, that's where they compete.
<0> 360 games are 60
<0> another thing is
<0> if it's a FAMILY with $300/yr
<0> Then that's gonna have an impact on mature sales
<2> yep
<0> Nintendo's never needed mature titles and when they did mature titles they didn't hint around about it and they were still not really gratuitous
<2> as I said, that's where they compete
<2> the game dollars
<1> 360 are 75
<0> the most offensive/mature rated game Nintendo ever released was Conker's Bad Fur Day and it wasn't even -that- bad.
<0> if a rev game costs half a 360 game
<0> I wonder which people will buy
<0> the 360 game will look better, especially if you have HDTV(which most people still don't)
<1> the cheaper
<1> but
<0> but the rev game will have a new controller interface, probably unique gameplay mechanics
<0> and it will be $35 instead of $60
<2> by the time the nintendo titles are $35, the xbox360's will be $50
<0> Nintendo will launch games at $35
<0> same price point as DS games
<2> we'll see.
<0> because Rev games take the same resources to develop as DS games
<0> the Rev is a modified gamecube, which means the games use a modified gamecube dev kit
<2> it's up to the retail chains
<0> An accurate way to think of the Rev is a GameCube SLI
<0> like 2 GameCubes in one box
<0> basically everything's been doubled and it's otherwise the same as gamecube
<0> still competitive apparently
<2> Dupper, have you done any development for the revolution
<0> but the big "revolution" isn't in horsepower, it's in innovations
<0> No, I've read articles and statements by people who have
<2> no, the big revolution will be in the gameplay mechanics
<2> period
<0> Not to mention the fact that the revolution will have 1 CPU and 1 GPU
<2> that is where nintendo has concentrated at all times
<0> making it much easier to develop for
<2> everything else is smoke and mirros
<2> *mirrors
<0> and it takes like one line of code to convert a game from analog to remote
<0> iNToIT that's what I meant by innovation
<0> ?
<0> iNToIT: If MS had done software for PS2 instead of it's own console
<0> Halo would have sold just as much as a PS2 game
<0> because it's the game, not the hardware
<1> its the game
<0> ESPECIALLY when the hardware differences seem so much less dramatic
<1> i would have bought ps2 if they had halo
<0> what do you mean, intoit?
<1> he said it was the game
<0> so did I
<0> we all agree it's the games
<1> exactlly
<0> Good.
<0> agreement is boring
<0> that's how wars start
<1> lol
<1> boring
<1> i will bomb u
<1> and then we can have a holocaust
<2> I'll dump a bucket of chlorine smelling spunk on you
<2> then when your bomb goes off, it'll splatter the matter
<1> yes it will
<0> well my main point is that I don't think the Revolution is going to be third place in sales numbers
<0> especially... *clears throat*...
<0> per game.
<2> it will. but it'll be 1st place in profits
<0> But that's good
<2> the only reason Sony made more $ than nintendo profit wise, is their consoles longevity
<0> if you buy it, you more than likely WILL have one of the other 2 for mainstream games
<0> and all you want out of it is exclusives
<0> and as long as nintendo profits
<0> ull get those
<2> and the reason they had the logevity, was because they had the right game publishing and hardware combo
<0> intoit: Sheer attrition
<2> nintendo could easily beat sony. but not M$
<0> brb
<2> the ps3 has some serious issues that may curtail its sales
<2> first one being, no dvi. It's hdmi and crippled component out
<4> so get hdmi to dvi converter?
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