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<0> its the fact that theyre distributing it that has the issue
<1> else the baseball team should go all to jail;)
<1> no questions asked;)
<2> they aren't distributing it..
<0> the default action on an iPod is to buy it via iTunes
<0> Martijn: yes, they are
<2> if I say www.kazaa.com I am not distributing illegal files
<1> what about for me
<2> although I am linking to illegal downloads..
<1> I have a Zen Vision:M
<1> whats my default?
<1> buy it from the sky?
<0> Martijn: no, your not actively distributing it tho
<2> and in what way is pirate bay doing it actively?
<0> your linking to a website, not distributing the illegal content
<1> Martijn... you should go to jail
<1> your helping in illegal causes
<1> :P
<1> I don't give a **** how;)
<2> do you know what a torrent is? a link to a website that has a list of ip's...
<2> nothing more nothing less.
<1> yes I know that:P
<2> except from some meta data..
<1> but teach that to Idle:p
<0> just like torent isn't illegal, and has fully legal uses, but when you actively host pirated files, and dont remove them in a timely f***ion, you are contributing in a large part, to distribute those files
<1> don't agree
<0> nosun: the meta data points to illegal files, thats the issue
<1> fosi.....
<0> if they removed those, they are doing their due dilligence, and its not their fault
<0> however, they are not
<1> you know the website FOSI?
<1> it has been up for ages on end
<0> just like the child porn analogy
<1> and google has it listed
<2> what is linking?
<1> altavista has it listed
<1> and **** loads of search engines have it listed
<1> why don't they unlist it;)
<2> the user has to activly request a download file from the ip...
<2> *e
<1> they're helping distrubuter illegal warez
<1> :P
<3> anyone here like trance/techno?
<0> nosun: they are linking a site, not the illegal material
<0> RobertW: I do :D
<0> RobertW: got me a DI subscript
<2> who doesn't...
<1> and?
<3> haha
<1> they're linking a torrent tracker not a file
<1> :P
<1> ;)
<0> nosun: exactly
<0> thats the key difference
<1> exactly why it isn't illegal:)
<1> :D
<0> linking a website is not illegal... linking an illegal file is
<3> no
<2> is it?
<3> only thing illegal
<1> yes
<3> is storing the file
<1> agreed
<1> 100%
<3> you can link the file
<3> and
<2> google links to illegal files too...
<3> rapidshare gets away easy
<0> google doesn't actively distribute the material, they distribute links to websites. not links to illegal content
<3> google can't help it
<3> they have ub3r r0bots.
<3> =\
<2> neither does the pirate bay, they do nothing actively...
<1> Idle now tell me..... what file is PirateBay linking to?
<0> nosun: the illegal files
<2> you have to go to the piratebay.com, and searching knowingly for illegal content..
<0> those torrents are the links
<2> just like you have to search on google knowingly for illegal content...
<1> Idle you just told me they're linking to tackers
<1> and tracker is not a file
<1> :p
<1> ;)
<1> a tracker is not a file*
<0> Martijn: but google doesn't actively run a tracker with illegal content links
<0> they arn't playing an active role
<1> also I can go further and say that pirate bay is even more so legal.....
<1> if you think about it....
<1> in most part as far a appz go....
<0> they do unlist webpages for illegal material... they have, many times, removed links to child porn sites in countries that the govt cant shut down
<1> how are they distrubuted?
<0> using their tracker
<1> usually its the program + a crack or keygen right?
<1> right?
<1> up to now... I never heard that cracks or keygens are illegal..... and as for the install files for the most part they are legit;)
<0> its illegal to actively participate in distributing those
<1> and neither is pre combined;)
<1> how so?
<0> the keygen an nocd are legal, yes
<1> cracks are for legitimate uses
<1> and same with keygens
<0> but not distributing the actual files
<4> Idle`: Not in Sweden it is
<1> ok....
<4> Idle`: Get your arguments straight.
<0> Akuma: what?
<4> There's a difference between the distribution laws in the US and how they work in Sweden.
<1> um help me I can't allow you to have this free program????
<1> cause its illegal to share it
<0> Akuma: very
<1> on my own ftp;)
<1> even though its free;)
<3> hmm
<3> D:
<3> irc is dead right now
<1> anyone get me on that one?
<1> ;)
<3> wheres all my nubs
<3> to type
<0> nosun: its illegal to _distribute_ copywritten material
<3> /server 127.0.0.1
<1> how so if its free:P
<3> ok
<3> copyrights?
<3> ok
<1> Idle.... your not getting me
<1> :p
<3> it is legal to link (ddl) to a file as long as its NOT stored on YOUR server
<0> its not so much illegal to _have_ it, (well it is, but only if youve paid for it)
<3> otherwise it is illegal
<1> if I go to nortons website and download Norton 200x trial
<1> I can share it with who ever and its legal
<0> RobertW: but a tracker is actively distributing it
<3> trackers = yes
<0> nosun: no, actually
<1> now if I package that in a zip file with the crack+keygen+nocd crack
<1> its still legal;)
<1> how so?]
<3> ?
<1> ok then sue download.com
<1> tucows.com
<1> um fileshack.com
<3> i don't think they link warez
<0> nosun: read their EULA, I'm sure it says you cant distribute this without the consent of norton
<0> nosun: written consent, as I said
<3> nubs -> eula = end user license agreement
<0> :)
<3> <('.'<)(>'.')> Break it Down :D
<1> ok but do all demos/trials have EULA?
<3> no
<3> they are DEMOS
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