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<0> davarus : yeah, but no one was willing to pay for it
<1> PAM?
<0> davarus : which means no one wants it...economically speaking
<2> farhan: Which is the really sad thing.
<2> farhan: People may not want it but the ****ing need it.
<0> davarus : people shoudln't waste their life writing programs no one wants
<3> the avarage person couldn't use linux
<2> Lord-Chew: BULL****.l
<0> davarus : no one is willing to pay for, i should say
<2> farhan: Sure they are.
<0> if so, why are they desperate for money?
<2> farhan: Simple. Corruption.
<3> davarus: i doubt it man, most people dont even know what a file extension is
<0> hahahaha, are you serious? in the open-source world?
<2> farhan: Which is why I say money is worthless.
<3> davarus: much less how to even use sypnatic or portage or apt-get
<2> farhan: Open-source has money?
<0> davarus : i studied economics, btw. im all about this kinda analysis
<2> farhan: 911.
<2> farhan: STUDY THAT.
<0> ?
<0> Rescue 911 ?
<3> farhan: programing for linux has advantages, i could make something specificly for a business, give them the OS free
<2> What buildings where destroyed during the 9/11 terrorist attacks?
<2> Lord-Chew: The free is only an added advantage.
<2> Lord-Chew: And really only to people who are too stupid to realize money is worthless.
<0> davarus : money has its own `demand`
<3> davarus: and in the business world people don't need to play wow or quake
<0> we call it the "demand for money"
<0> kinda a counter-intuitive subject, i guess
<3> and really, all linux is lacking is gaming
<2> farhan: I could print a billion dollars and nobody would notice.
<2> farhan: And no economics would not make the value of the dollar go down because of it.
<0> davarus : well, that's cuz our economy is like 12 trillion. print out a few Hundred billion, give it a few months, and people WILL notice
<3> besides, GTK+ code runs on windows
<2> Lord-Chew: No, Linux is lacking more important things than gaming.
<2> farhan: Are you sure about that?
<3> davarus: enlighten me
<0> davarus : positive
<3> davarus: ive found it to be better in every other aspect
<2> Lord-Chew: Reliability, Security, Efficiency, and Useability... in no particular order and not being the sole items.
<2> farhan: Then you know more than me or less. So let's find out.
<2> farhan: You know anything about the current "War on Terror"?
<3> davarus: and all windows has is useability
<0> davarus : what about it?
<3> davarus: and you were just arguing that the average person could use linux, now you tell me useability is an issue
<0> davarus : im confused, what are you talking about exactly?
<2> Lord-Chew: Better is insuffient unless you're a dumb consumer.
<2> Lord-Chew: Linux falls terribly short of what we could *EASILY* do.
<0> my father is on a terrorist watch list :-) seriously
<3> davarus: but i agree, a closed source nix would be better
<2> Lord-Chew: HELL NO.
<2> Lord-Chew: DO YOU ****ING SMOKE CRACK?
<3> davarus: sorry, windows is the best
<0> davarus : i don't get the point you were trying to make
<1> Lord-Chew, are you an SCO fan or something?
<3> davarus: those good old windows boxes i used to teardrop for like 4 years in a row
<3> until MS finaly even admited there was a problem
<4> to me it looks like all you ppl are smoking crack
<2> farhan: The point I was trying to make is money is worthless. Africa has been given more money than a thousand could ever spend in their lifetime... Yet someone in Africa dies something like every 5 seconds.
<3> comphobby: naw im a GNU fan
<2> farhan: Further the war on terror is not a war on terror.
<1> and you like closed source stuff? or were you joking?
<2> farhan: It's genocide.
<0> davarus : that's because most of the money is spent on immediate consumption, not investment
<0> davarus : I took a very detailed course called "African Economic Development"
<2> farhan: You can not win a war on terror and just by waging one ensure that more terror will happen.
<0> all about the african problems
<0> davarus : what does the war on terror have to do with money?
<2> farhan: The *ONLY* successful way to win a "War on Terror" would be to build infrastructre, educate, and pray.
<3> anyway im done arguing
<3> davarus is just some 17 year old who knows everything
<2> farhan: Who funded the Taliban?
<3> and besides
<2> farhan: And why?
<3> arguing ont he internet is like winning the special olympics
<4> Lord-Chew: indeed
<0> davarus : i honestly don't see the connection between the value of money and terrorism....
<4> no matter if you win, you are still retarded
<2> Lord-Chew: Open Source (not free) is a *REQUIREMENT*.
<2> Price is irrelevent.
<2> Simply better is irrelevent.
<2> If we can reasonably do better... It *NEEDS* to be done.
<0> davarus : you're making a lot of claims, and not backing them up...
<2> farhan: I have made no claims other than money is worthless and it is connected.
<2> farhan: What exactly are you unclear about?
<0> i don't see why you're tlaking about the war on terrorism....
<0> davarus : The reason why money did nothing in Africa is because MOST of it was spent on consumption and what's called "Neopatrimoneialism"
<0> i spelled that wrong
<0> Neopatrimonialism
<0> it shoulda been spent on investment. money DOES have a value
<2> farhan: Blah, blah, blah.
<0> if it didn't....you woudln't work
<0> davarus : why do you have a job?
<2> farhan: The money should have been spent on building and education.
<4> lol davarus, farhan backs up he's claims and oppinions, you dont, and you reply "blahblah" when he states a fact? hahahaha
<2> farhan: And it should have been monitored, adjusted, and accounted for.
<2> farhan: And quite frankly should likely have been spent on hiring good people to go and oversee and do the building and education.
<2> farhan: Not on simply... Here, have a billion dollars.
<0> davarus : well, that's cuz the international organizations weren't that good at their policies...they have whats' called "structural adjustment polices" now
<0> err, structural adjustment programmes
<2> farhan: So Africa is getting the relief it needs and we're rebuilding Iraq?
<2> farhan: Last I checked the only thing we were doing is killing.
<0> davarus : no no, look
<0> let me explain
<0> if someone gives you $100 and says pay me back $120 at the end of the month
<0> if you spent that $100 on the stock market and earn $200, you pay back that $120 and pocket the $80, correct?
<2> farhan: Nope.
<2> farhan: I'm done talking.
<0> did i do the math wrong?
<4> farhan: game, set, match, davarus has nothing to show
<2> farhan: You either ignorantly or intentionally left out relevent information.
<0> davarus : imagine if someone spent that $100 on food or toys. at the end of the month, they would have NOTHING to pay back
<2> farhan: If I push a button on a computer which plays the stock market for me and makes me a trillion dollars within the first year. What then?
<0> so, both parties would loose
<4> davarus: and please could you spell relevant relevant... with an a
<2> Caligo: I can try.
<4> thank you, it has been bugging me this whole conversation
<0> davarus : you wrote a program which knows what to invest in. companies use that money to produce something new, like a new kind of car or AC or whatever. they sell the products, get money and the stock price goes up.
<2> Caligo: Sorry... I don't much care for spelling.
<2> farhan: That's all fine and dandy but outright wrong.
<0> one of the main problems with African countries is that they took the moeny they were given and spent it on Consumption (mostly food/clothes, etc) So, when the Creditors came back saying "give us our money back" they didn't invest in anything, and had nothing to show for it. that's the problem
<4> davarus: normally neither do i, but thats if u misspell once:)
<0> davarus : why is that wrong?
<2> farhan: BULL****.
<3> btw you can't have open source and free
<4> (but capital letters, shortening you to u or whatnot, that i can take)
<2> farhan: COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL****.
<2> farhan: Did they buy any ****ing wells?
<1> damn, I think this channel has flamewars about everything but C more often then it talks about C
<2> farhan: AS IN A GOD DAMN ****ING SOURCE OF WATER SO GOD DAMN MOTHER ****ING PRIMATIVES THE ****ING AZTECS HAD THEM?!
<0> ???
<4> CompHobby: indeed, this is a political debate channel at times
<0> wait, is davarus the same as that one guy we keep banning?
<1> davarus wow, overreact much?
<2> CompHobby: If I'm overreacting shoot me ****ing now.
<0> lol
<0> Permanent
<3> Aztecs were pretty advanced
<2> Lord-Chew: Relative to a cave-man sure.
<2> Lord-Chew: And you're a liar or an idiot.
<3> i bet some of them knew more math than you
<2> Lord-Chew: I have no doubt.
<2> Lord-Chew: Are you going somewhere?
<3> point is, that is advanced
<1> if ((filp->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK) ? down_trylock(&open_in_sem[minor_dev]) : down_interruptible(&open_in_sem[minor_dev]))
<1> return ((filp->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK) ? -EAGAIN : -ERESTARTSYS);
<1> I think my boss is gonna shoot me for that...
<0> my theory is davarus isn't being serious....
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