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<0> and rip with the random ad hominous attack :P
<1> well, seriously several CERT ppl have been busted for child pornography
<2> uh
<0> so have several school teachers, your point?
<1> school teachers arent in question!: )
<0> they're ***ual proclivities aren't in question either :)
<1> i cant support handing them work
<2> patrick naughton of Sun was also busted for child pornography, does that mean the rest of Sun like that stuff too?
<1> well, i stopped liking sun years ago:P
<2> so did Sun.
<1> even tho my buddy works for sun
<1> i cant really say i think highly of sun (open solaris for instance, pening up again bugs closed a decade ago0
<1> )
<1> opening even
<2> if you think that's all opensolaris is for, you're pretty clueless
<1> thats the kind of thing i would expect from a certain other company
<1> who said that was what it was for
<1> thats what it did
<1> nobody ever said it was meant to do that:p
<2> example?
<3> hmmm bf should be home soon
<1> of a bug?
<2> yes, that was so serious and was fixed in solaris a decade ago
<1> setuid ld preload for instance
<2> rip: say, was this in a "production ready" opensolaris?
<1> yes afaik.
<1> this is all posted abut on varius mailinglists
<3> so what seems to be the flavour of choice when it comes to unix?
<1> they can get more into than i will bother
<1> jasabella, for me it depends on the task.
<3> hmmm
<1> but i dont wanna start a flame war on whats best for what :P
<3> i know
<3> but do ppl switch distributions alot?
<3> like sometimes i hear a whole lot abot a certain distribution then some other distribution seems all the rave
<1> till they find something they like
<2> rip: can't find anything on google
<1> personally i tried alot of distros
<3> like i heard a whole lot about fedora and now lots of ppl seem to talk about ubuntu and before these two there was some other one
<1> SgtUnix i guess go surf the buglist
<1> fedora? ive never really heard anyone say anything but **** about fedora:P
<1> ive tried befora core 2-5 myself
<1> not my kinda distro
<1> but ppl seem to like it
<2> rip: i'm beginning to think it was just a bug that landed in the cvs at some point, only to be fixed later, and thus working as perfect fuel for anyone that wants to flame opensolaris
<1> believe what you want, im pretty sure it wasn't :)
<2> well you're not very convincing
<1> my buddy who works for sun was the guy who informed me
<1> i don't make an effort to be either. when i have the time i will google up your proof :)
<2> this is no big deal anyway, opensolaris.org's nevada is and has been cutting edge. production systems use solaris express
<1> i guess yu can search the opensolaris.org bug database..
<1> theres been tons of bugs with that, mostly not security related tho
<2> ofcourse there are bugs, what else would you expect?
<1> then again, sun and solaris doesnt really interest me, so it's not something i follow closely
<2> the important thing is that they're being fixed
<2> which is the reason why you shouldn't compare it to a certain company in WA
<1> the guys in WA interest me even less
<1> heh the text is randomly moving on the screen
<3> rip... what do you use?
<1> jasabella for what purpose?
<3> desktop
<3> dev
<1> Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop
<1> based on something proven and polished so i dont have to handle the gory-details
<1> ie i pop in the cd and it works
<1> heh
<0> yeah nice that, isn't it
<1> it has its advantages, and its drawbacks
<1> yeah
<1> i like it
<1> and i really care more about getting work done than configuring my linux box
<0> only drawback for me is that for whatever reason, copy/paste isn't working between the host and client.
<0> so that rules out gentoo :P
<1> what host and what client
<1> vmware?
<0> host winxp client ubuntu 606
<0> yeah
<1> i bet thats more vmwares fault tho?
<0> oh absolute
<1> i only started uing ubuntu iwth 5.10 and instantly liked it
<1> but its not my choice for servers.
<1> (usually linux at all isnt)
<0> if i'm serious about the server, it's freebsd, otherwise any flavor of linux is sufficient
<1> yes, freebsd is definetly my favourite for server
<1> tho i have to throw on like 10 patches before im happy with it tho hehe
<0> but i haven't paid attention to that for at least four years now, so maybe it's all different
<0> what kind of patches?
<3> is vmware free?
<1> (propolice,stack-gap,random-mmap base, sshd antibruteofrcing and chroot support, etc)
<1> jasabella free trial
<0> yeah it expires every few months and I have to download the next 120mb archive
<0> rip, ah that's nice
<3> hmmm
<0> performance i think it's better then virtual pc.
<3> do you use kde or gnome?
<0> i just hope the copy-paste thing gets fixed soon
<1> it helps alot. my freebsd boxes are fortresses :P
<4> mornings
<0> yeah
<1> i woulda used openbsd but its so slow :(
<0> what kind of services do you have on your bsd boxen?
<1> all kinda, depending on the box, everything from sql(post/mysql/berkely) to www(apache/php/perl/cgi) to mail(postfix) and so forth
<1> sshd, some rpc, some smb, etc
<1> i manage alot of boxes for alot of different uses
<0> hmm
<1> vpn too
<1> how about yourself?
<1> jasabella if you ever try out Ubuntu beware gnome is the default. there are however kubuntu and so forth distros but they arent as complete, afaik
<1> i think part of the idea is to limit the users need to make such fundamental choices so he can focus on other stuff
<3> kde looks prettier than gnome imho
<1> Gambit- theres a new virtual machine for the Mac now thats REALLY fast.. pararel or smth
<1> jasabella, i think exactly the oposite.
<3> hehe
<0> rip, on todays digg there's a comparison... parallel didn't score too good iirc
<1> besides, my windowmanager is stronger than your windowmanager! :/
<5> and digg is always right!
<1> Gambit- my boss runs it all the time and cant shut up about how much faster than VPC and VMware it is
<1> ive never tried it tho
<0> rip, I don't admin boxs, but the ones I've set up tend to be straightforward smb+router boxs... locked down by virtue of not accepting connections from anywhere except the localnet :)
<0> twkm, it's just an aggregate :)
<0> rip, *shrugs* not having a mac myself...
<1> i love tcp/ip stack bugs heheh
<1> Gambit- me neither, my linux box looks prettier.
<1> heheh
<1> and its cheaper
<1> heheh
<1> im gonna buy a mac when i have a few thousand to waste
<1> i wish they would update the core of osx tho
<1> the mach kernel is a mess
<5> there is no real aggregate in digg, unless you pour over all the less useless responses.
<1> and basing it on fbsd 3 obviosuly was a looong time ago
<5> but that's a lot of effort.
<1> however, as far as I'm concerned the Mac OSX is the ***iest commercial operating system for the home desktop I've seen.
<1> regardless of how slow it is.
<3> i want a macbook pro *drool*
<1> everyone i know who owns a newer mac can't shut up about how great it is, so i suspect subliminal messaging built in
<1> jasabella well, i wanted one, until i found out why theyre called notebooks and not laptops: they burn your lap.
<0> huh now this is peculiarly interesting
<0> my kernel doesn't seem to match the source files i have installed for it
<1> they get literally 95C under
<0> thats annoying
<1> thats always fun
<3> eep
<1> my boss has two
<1> he switches between them since they get super hot heh
<1> yay only 1.5 hrs til ala carte express opens
<1> weeee.
<3> tell him to give you the old ones and to get a new one and that the new ones dont get that hot ;)
<1> jasabella his old ones usually gets their hdd removed and gets a free trip out the window from the 12th floor
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