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<0> it was soooo funny
<1> Teckla, i've never used it as a live cd. but i'm pretty happy with it installed on a few machines. the new rm-f.net is going to use it over gentoo
<2> It'll be interesting to see if Ubuntu can recognize all my laptop hardware like Knoppix did.
<2> OrageTide: Wow.
<1> game 6 of the stanley cup was way more interesting, i'm sure.
<2> For some reason I thought you used Slackware or something.
<1> i did for a while.
<1> originally it was running on slackware.
<1> then gentoo for about 2+ years.
<2> What's it running now?
<1> it's on ubuntu. but the box is still on my desk. i'm playing around with setting up raid under Xen today and hopefully i'll mail it out tomorrow
<2> OK, download started on my wife's PC. Yay for Cygwin sshd!
<1> rsync is more fun...
<1> you should just bittorrent it:D
<2> Well, she's using her PC at the moment.
<1> gotta use bittorrent legitimately whenever we can.
<1> ah.
<1> start somefile.torrent
<2> And I'm using my hard-drive-less laptop. :)
<1> and see if she freaks out
<2> Heh.
<1> Teckla, newegg has 1gb memory sticks for under $40.
<0> the torrent protocol is one of the most amazing protocols for file transfer ever
<2> Not bad.
<2> I've been using my 256 MB frequently lately.
<1> you can run a nice linux distro off that.
<2> If my laptop could boot from USB flash drives (I don't think it can), I could install Damn Small Linux on it.
<1> PNY 1GB is $26.
<2> $26 for 1 GB?!? Wow.
<2> That's fantastic.
<1> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820155006 .. $21.25 and it's super tiny (i have two of these)
<2> I wish flash memory was cheaper so I could buy a flash memory based drive for my laptop.
<2> That would be fun.
<2> Even 20 GB would be big enough to be plenty useful to me.
<3> 40 x $22 would be
<3> $880 ?
<2> $880...ouch.
<1> in about 6 months they'll be out in all the stores. i think 10gb. in 2 years most companies will be shipping at least some models of laptops with a flash drive
<4> flash is still pretty slow, though. even the 80x stuff is only 10MB/s read/write
<2> OrageTide: Sweet. I want.
<2> I don't need lots of disk space.
<2> I can store big stuff on my wife's computer.
<1> pfloyd, i got 20MB/s read on the little USB one I have.
<2> And keep my laptop lean and mean.
<5> I'm using diff -x '*/.svn/*' but it's still returning differences in files like: ./.svn/entries
<4> OrageTide: oh that's not bad then, must be improving it
<2> USB drives spank regular hard drives for seek speed though.
<1> Jagg1, i think it's regex, not shell wildcard
<3> Jagg1: try diff -x .svn
<1> farhan, i found a bunch on google.
<0> what did you search for?
<5> ot, mish.. mish's works.. but it doesn't seem to be substring
<0> because, solaris's CD isn't booting proplerly
<3> Jagg1: ?
<5> (diff -x .svn excluded, but diff -x vn didn't
<0> i've done the exact same steps maybe 20 times, and out of those times, its worked 3
<0> perhaps the CD is fried...
<1> Jagg1, there was some tool that used regex. i don't remember what though. ehhe
<2> farhan: Is it a CD, or CD-R, or CD+R?
<5> ot, haha :)
<0> Cd-r
<2> Yeah, probably a slightly bad CD-R, then.
<0> what is a CD+R ?
<3> Jagg1: if anything else fails, copy them to temp trees ignoring/removing what's not needed, and run diff on temp trees
<2> Is there no such thing as CD+R? I just ***umed there was since there's DVD-R and DVD+R.
<0> lol
<3> Teckla: no, i don't think so
<3> there's CDR and CDRW
<2> Sorry. :)
<5> mish, thanks
<0> i dunno....
<5> not a bad idea
<1> Teckla, the trackpad on my macbook is awesome btw. if i use two fingers it works like a scroll wheel. if i put two fingers on and click it works like right click (it's a 1 button mouse). it's pretty slick.
<5> mv .svn ../temp.svn ;)
<1> i wish i could get a trackpad like it as usb to use on my desktop
<0> i wonder what the market for someone with Linux/Solaris certifications would be
<2> OrageTide: That's cool - but - only 1 mouse button on the laptop??? What's up with that?
<5> macintosh
<1> Teckla, how many buttons do you need?
<2> OrageTide: 2.
<1> you need either 1 or 3. 2 is not the right number
<0> Teckla : would a CD-RW work better?
<1> X11 wants 3. and MacOS wants 1.
<4> that's what sidekick or the workaround is for. or option+ click
<1> 2 means you have too many for macos and not enough for X11. :P
<4> er sidetrack
<2> (1 + 3) / 2 = 2. So 2 is the right number. ;)
<1> yea. that's the compromise so everyone can be equally unhappy
<3> OT: does mac still use only 1 button ?
<2> farhan: I would think a CD-R is more reliable than a CD-RW. Maybe re-burn the CD at a lower speed.
<1> Mish_, yea. they sell multibutton mouses though.
<1> but the GUI is designed to only need one button.
<1> it's not like you can really play games on a trackpad anyways.
<0> yah....i think im going to try it one more time and if it doesn't work, i'll switch to windows and use Nero
<0> and if it still doesn't work....i'll ***ume that solaris's ISOs are wack
<1> i was never able to get windows to burn a cd that anyone could read.
<5> okay.. thanks guys..
<2> AFAIK most MacOS X apps use a 2nd mouse button exactly as you would expect.
<5> I think I have to go to a funeral
<5> ttyl
<5> (just the services)
<5> b'bye
<1> apparently i can burn cds in XP. but it didn't work so well
<1> Teckla, what do you mean?
<1> i really only use right click in Finder so i don't have to go up to the menu bar to do things.
<3> nero burns CDs on XP just fine
<2> OrageTide: Meaning that if you get a 2 button mouse for your Mac that all your apps will probably use the 2nd mouse button as you would expect.
<1> Teckla, oh. right. yea. second mouse button generally works like ctrl-click in apps
<1> Teckla, macosx supports up to a 32 button mouse
<2> That's a lot of buttons.
<1> most apps don't do much with stuff beyond 2 buttons and wheel.
<3> OT: and on 64-bit maschine, 64 buttons ?
<2> I mostly like it when apps are written so that you can easily do everything you need with just one mouse button and no click-and-drag.
<2> I think click-and-drag is normally a horrible UI thing.
<1> but most apps support the horizontal wheels. (you don't have to do much to get them to work in your app)
<1> Mish_, nah. G5s are 64-bit and they only p*** a 32bit word for the event too
<2> Ubuntu: 20% and downloading.
<1> Teckla, click and drag works well for file manager type programs, but only if they support undo.
<1> the problem with click and drag is you need to have your targets really big. because it's harder to control a mouse accurately while you're holding buttons on it
<2> OrageTide: Yeah, click-and-drag makes sense for some things, like that. It's good for organizing and rearranging photos too - my wife does that in Picasa a lot.
<2> But I hate it when click-and-drag is required on UIs where it really doesn't make that much sense.
<1> Teckla, it's click and drag is pretty click in Pages (iWork) too.
<3> i bought logitech wireless laser mouse MX1000
<3> it'snice but bit heavy
<3> and i'm back using my old mouse
<1> i have iWeb, and I ***ume it works like Pages.
<1> i never ran iWeb, eheh.
<3> this MX1000 has sort of 7 programmable buttons
<2> What's iWeb?
<1> Teckla, i never ran it. but it seems to be an HTML creator thingy.
<2> Oh.
<2> I write all my HTML by hand.
<2> Well most of it.
<1> the icon looks a lot like the Pages icon. so i'm guessing it's the same team and probably works in the same extremely intuitive way.
<2> I used Mozilla Composer for some stuff once. It worked nice.
<1> like you just grab a picture from iPhoto. drag it into your document and the text forms around it nicely. stuff like that.
<1> Teckla, yea. i do html by hand too. unless i'm running a wiki.
<1> yea. mozilla composer is supposed to be the best wysiwyg editor
<1> but it's not really any easier to use than just hand editing. :)
<2> Is NVU the same thing as Mozilla Composer?
<1> i had to hunt around a lot to find options in it.
<1> yea. i'm pretty sure it's the same thing
<2> OrageTide: Do you use Firefox or Safari?
<1> both.
<1> sometimes commerical websites are broken in one or the other. kind of sad when they are broken in firefox
<2> Ah.
<2> Ubuntu...33%.
<2> ETA 50 minutes.
<2> Fun fun.
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