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<OrngeTide> jeffloc, how many joint violent youth gangs to get out their ***ual frustrations?
<OrngeTide> Mish_, yea. they occationally murder female babies, and often put them out for adoption.
<jeffloc> at least women are getting a bit better deal
<jeffloc> as long as they can avoid the rape gangs
<Mish_> LordZid: that s you ?
<OrngeTide> well I've been writing a few letters to push for all women, disabled and elderly to be approved for a national CCW permit (concealed carry weapon). if more women were armed maybe random ***ults on women would decrease.
<Mish_> actually, you should be lobbying that *only* women were allowed to carry weapons
<OrngeTide> right now the CCW system in the US is a mess. they aren't universal. you go from one state to another and your permit doesn't count for jack. many regions refuse to give you a permit if your name sounds hispanic or black. etc.
<OrngeTide> Mish_, i'm find with that.
<Mish_> or maybe, women and you
<OrngeTide> Mish_, well disabled and elderly too.
<jeffloc> no. everyone should. then the criminals would be m***ivly outgunned
<OrngeTide> s/find/fine
<Mish_> aha, right
<OrngeTide> like there was that 70 year old woman that was raped last year. wtf.
<Mish_> non-criminals must be allowed to carry RPG
<OrngeTide> that guy should've got shot in the face.
<Mish_> then criminals will be outgunned
<OrngeTide> honestly noone should spend the final years of their life reliving nightmares of getting raped.
<jeffloc> RPG?
<OrngeTide> rocket propelled grenade.
<Mish_> that shoulder antitank launcher
<Mad_Coder> rocket propelled grenade?
<jeffloc> those little stun guns are getting better.
<OrngeTide> yea. the stun guns aren't legal in all states though.
<OrngeTide> there is a huge controversy over the police using tasers too.
<OrngeTide> honestly i'd rather be tased than shot by a cop.
<jeffloc> they are worried people will use them on tax collectors
<OrngeTide> ahha
<Mish_> funnily, the RPG is also called RPG in russian, with totally different words
<samp0> FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Mad_Coder> nah, think about all those old hags that would just electrocute you all day - "young, man you snuck in before me... ZAPP"
<Mish_> it's "hand-carried anti-talk grenade-launcher" which is RPG in russian
<OrngeTide> well if you attack a tax collector then your lawn will be covered in cop cars and they'll drag your *** off to jail, after they rough you up a bit.
<Mish_> s/talk/tank
<jeffloc> if they catch you :)
<ncaller> what is the significance of the number "5381" on line 3 in this code http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TjsPT553.html - a hash function from DJB
<Mish_> ncaller: my birthday, from hujdra
<Mish_> *hijdra
<Mish_> it was noted to produce good hash values
<Mish_> so many hash function writers adopted it
<Mish_> i'm thinking about trademark that number
<OrngeTide> ncaller, probably just a nice prime number.
<ncaller> now if I need to produce hashes that will fall into more than 5382 buckes do I need to increase it to a larger prime, or take the return value of this function and perform modulus with a larger prime on that value and the 5381 stays constant
<Mish_> 5381 doesn't necessarity stay constant
<jeffloc> should work with a larger prime. there are primes called weak primes
<Mish_> bue to memory errors, at lest
<OrngeTide> ncaller, well the way that magic value is used it doesn't really matter that much, because it's used to hash a string 8-bits at a time.
<OrngeTide> so you wouldn't change it unless you started hashing 16-bits at a time or something.
<OrngeTide> if you just want to hash a single value then you'd use different formula anyways.
<Mish_> anybody knows if there is liveCD based on Fedora or RedHat ?
<notify> hi (:
<jeffloc> they are right. there isn't any real reason to change the number
<OrngeTide> Mish_, http://www.fedora.us/wiki/LiveCd
<OrngeTide> i mean. honestly. google works better than IRC
<Mish_> thanks
<Mish_> 2 of my patches went into git this week
<OrngeTide> NEAT
<Mish_> abd Bram is holding off 1 vim patch of mine
<OrngeTide> you've been busy.
<OrngeTide> i haven't submitted a patch to anything in like 8 years
<Mish_> but he's probably overwhelmed with backlog of emails still after holydays
<OrngeTide> OUCH! that hurt
<ncaller> well I have a bunch of file/path names that I want to hash, a maximum or 30,000. So the next prime is like 30011. I need these pathnames to fall into up to 30,000 different buckets, so would I do unsigned int hash = 30011; in the function, or do: hash = DJBHash(filename) % 30011;
<LordZid> sounds like a hobby I could do
<LordZid> troll other people's code
<Mish_> your hobby of pasting url in this chan is good, too
<Mish_> s/url/urls/
<LordZid> no url was right
<Mish_> OT: that www.fedora.us is unreachable
<jeffloc> ncaller, why not test out that routine to see what hash values it produces
<jeffloc> you might be surprised
<Mish_> soeone needs to write hashfunction-tester package that has large dictionary, and tests quality (distribution) of hash values
<Mish_> package where you can lpug your own hash function and test it (speed, distribution) against other functions
<Mish_> maybe i shall do it, actually
<Mish_> i planned t do it for some time
<Mish_> there will be sevral dictionaries (1) english dict (2) identifiers extracted from some large sw like gc
<Mish_> and maybe some other strings, like decimal numbers from 1 to N, hex numbers from 1 to N
<OrngeTide> Mish_, run ubuntu instead. it's better than fedora
<Mish_> and probably some binary data strings
<Mish_> OT: ok i'll try ubuntu if knoppix won't fly
<Mish_> actyually i tried ubuntu6 earlier and i got problems
<Mish_> i shall try v5
<Mish_> i meant not distribution, but spread; diffusion; dispersal; dispersion; diffusing; dispersing, scattering
<Mish_> there s certain naming clas; cryptographic hashes (like sha1


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