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<0> SVG? Hmmm.
<0> As in: foo.svg ?
<1> yep
<1> vector
<0> Ah ha. Scalable Vector Graphics
<0> (Good old Wikipedia!)
<2> "an XML markup language"
<3> if i m allowed to ask ?
<2> calc ask
<4> Just *ask* a precise question (while clearly describing your problem) in the channel. Then wait for an answer. (Do not ask to ask, just ask.)
<3> need library .. or what ever for virtual device driver
<3> or any help any thing .. i m not that much smart enough .. sorry
<5> That's not really a "precise" question.
<3> :|
<6> there is also MIF format
<1> calc AaronWL
<4> I don't know
<2> I like the MILF format. Pretty curves.
<3> hmmm
<6> searchcalc AaronWL
<4> index: 2755. results:
<6> Kurwa!
<6> calc AaronWL
<4> <AaronWL> I am huge fan of horizontal commodisation of knowledge affects the dynamics of innovation processes.
<6> oops
<0> MIF?
<6> I'm not sure. I think commercial SW uses MIF
<6> calc AaronWL
<4> <AaronWL> I am huge fan of horizontal commodisation of knowledge affected dynamics of innovation processes.
<3> :S
<3> or any help any thing .. i m not that much smart enough .. sorry need library .. or what ever for virtual device driver
<6> oh sure
<6> we help poor people
<6> we are not that cruel
<2> LaDy^^^: What is a library for a virtual device driver?
<6> "virtual device driver" ?
<3> ya ?
<3> Virtual device driver ?
<6> which OS ? for which purpose ?
<3> Win
<7> a VDD?
<3> For virtual webcam
<6> virtuous webcam ?
<3> so can show movie clips on Cam ..
<3> doesnt matter have cam or not
<6> so you want to show movie clips on the camera
<3> with virtual webcam driver
<3> can do that
<6> and speak on the microphone ?
<3> hehe
<3> :D
<6> ladybug oh ladybug
<8> night all, off to sleep
<6> was he kidding (LaDy^^^), or just kidding ?
<9> ah. it feels so nice to be clean.
<6> "Engineers will go without food and hygiene for days to solve a problem. (Other times just because they forgot.) (Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle)"
<9> how true that is.
<6> plus, we have to save water
<9> water is not "saved" by not using it. water is not lost by using it.
<9> hi OrngeTide
<6> clean water ?
<9> just wait until it evaporates. when it rains down again, it will be clean... unless you have polluted the air.
<6> unless you live in the area where it does not rain
<6> the problem here is, it evaporates here, but it condenses somewhere else
<9> then you live in the wrong area. :)
<6> yeah
<6> bad water! bad!
<9> Aeon-: where do you live?
<6> israel
<9> yeah, good water is rather rare there. not as bad some places though. :)
<9> do you use linux at all?
<6> ehe
<6> FC5
<6> at home
<9> do you have a 64 bit cpu?
<6> ehe
<6> i don't use 64-bit though
<10> Why do you ask, megaton? I do though, as many people around here
<6> when i need long long, i can have long long in 32-bit mode
<9> Maloeran: wondering how a typical linux based systems works in 64 bit mode nowadays.
<10> No problem to speak of since... 2 years or so
<10> I'm ***uming you are refering to amd64
<9> nvidia drivers?
<9> yeah
<10> Sure
<0> SVG looks like more than just scalable vector graphics...
<9> Maloeran: have you tried XGL on amd64?
<10> Never tried, I prefer a light minimalistic keyboard-driven WM
<9> you can use a lightweight WM with XGL. it works better using the powerful 3d hardware than 2d hardware. no tearing when windows move etc.
<9> font smoothing and scaling is absolutely gorgeous.
<9> i personally heavily dislike jagged fonts.
<10> Probably, it's still fine with mere Xorg in 1600x1200. I'll have to try some day I suppose
<10> I just don't see much potential gain there
<11> test it with http://kororaa.org/static.php?page=static060318-181203 (XGL live cd)
<9> fonts at 151 DPI are very legible and clear compared to the standard 92DPI font scaling that traditional X servers use.
<9> (you can tweak X to scale fonts to >92DPI but the jagged edges scale with the fonts... which ****s.
<10> I really don't see the hype about 3d hardware acceleration desktops, personally, besides faster rendering of smooth text and so on
<11> taking rendering load of the cpu and onto the gpu
<10> All these features like "transparent windows" don't make a desktop more usable, it just makes text harder to read
<9> so don't use those silly features. legible fonts and non-tearing windows are invaluable.
<9> good point Mad_Coder
<9> i know my cpu time is incredibly valuable.
<10> So is mine, but not 0.5% of it goes on rendering X stuff :)
<9> ****, i have to be up in 5 hours. :(
<9> Maloeran: the software that runs on your cpu does not scale fonts as well as the highly optimized graphics libraries that run on your gpu.
<9> and .5% of my cpu is more than 100 times as powerful as my first cpu in my first computer.
<10> No point in talking to me in such simplistic terms, I know opengl rendering in depth
<11> I dont see any revolutionary stuff from XGL though, doesnt osx's aqua do all the stuff XGL does?
<9> Maloeran: just trying to keep you from disdaining new desktop technologies merely because they allow glitzy and useless effects.
<9> Mad_Coder: it does a lot of it. it uses the GPU to render the desktop.
<10> *nods* I'll take it once XGL is mature and ready, which I don't think is the case yet
<9> true enough. it is definitely not mature.
<11> and then there is windows vista and its "aero gl***" or whatever it's called
<9> i used to use an old 13 inch tv set as my monitor while writing programs. i can't stand ****y fonts anymore. i want XGL now. hell, cleartype is a huge improvement. :)
<12> thanks
<12> well,
<9> aero gl*** ****s. it disables itself whenever i install nvidia drivers. :(
<12> anyidea of how to use graphics with c
<12> ?
<12> u know, making programs like XMMS or Real1Player.. ?
<9> Netty: you net. link to an OpenGL library and start rocking.
<9> erm, bet even
<11> Netty, absolutely Mode13h
<12> megaton` .. wait, i know u :> ur from nazareth ?
<10> Netty, xmms uses gtk
<12> gtk ?!
<9> i am not from nazareth.
<12> what is it ?
<10> Yes, a widget toolkit
<10> ***uming that's what you meant by "graphics", that would rather be making GUI programs
<12> yes
<12> GUI programs for linux
<9> GTK is a handy and very accessible toolkit.
<13> for what windowmanager? tho; generally gtk/gtk2/etc is use for the gnome environment and qt for kde
<13> s/use/used/
<11> and qt is c++
<11> I think
<13> this is true
<12> can i use gtk with KDE ?
<13> you can
<13> but that means loading more libraries
<13> (ie kde loads alot of qt stuff, gnome gtk stuff)
<12> is there any official website for the gtk programming ? ^o) ?
<13> yes, i dont remember it but google will direct you
<13> ;]
<12> aha
<12> u mean gtk is kinda of linguage ?
<12> language*
<11> an api
<13> its a widget set
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