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<0> i had to make my own boot disk
<0> i bet slackware boots on it.
<1> I wonder if I allocate more ram for this vm if that'll make a difference
<2> holy crap
<2> OrngeTide, you have more RAM in that server then I have HDD space in both my laptops put together
<0> ehhee.
<0> well it gets shared with many users. so it's not as big as you think.
<0> anyways. i think i'll go home. adios.
<1> you must have some ancient laptops. ;)
<2> myrddin: a P3 500 and a P1 75 :/
<2> what can I say, they were free
<2> the P1 75 is for road trips and random hacking and reverse engineering, and the other one is for everything else... since my desktop is currently non copus mentis
<1> ah
<1> well, free is usually > *
<2> agreed
<2> if the keyboard and mouse on this laptop weren't so goddamn spazzy and broken I would be very happy with it
<2> as it is... blood pressure++
<2> there is nothing so infuriating as having your mouse left-clicking furiously when you're not touching it.
<3> hah, that's funny
<3> replace the palm rest
<3> is it still under warranty?
<2> hardcopy: I'm saving my money for building a new desktop, else I wouldn't
<2> um... P3 500
<2> that's one hell of a warranty
<3> hah
<2> er, else I would
<4> i totally guess the keyword :D
<5> it's only to stop the channel flooding bots
<5> and it's in the channel title
<4> :)
<4> my first time here
<6> is it possible to do oop in c?
<7> sure
<7> program OOP into C
<7> there you go
<8> oop, as in, 'oops my program crashed and the nuclear reactor is overheating'?
<6> neg
<7> use c++ for oop
<8> kthx^, oop refers to a set of style guidelines and programming methodogies that differ slightly based on who is talking and what they are talking about.
<8> eg, 'oop' doesnt actually mean anything.
<8> you should instead talk specifically about what you are talkin about.
<9> OOP is overrated.
<6> oh
<8> polymorphism, encapsulation, user-defined types, or hatever
<6> calc encapsulation
<10> Hiding the details esp. from those who need to know.
<8> so, in the case of the first, can you do polymorphism in c? yes, it is usually done with callbacks.
<9> Function pointers
<8> can you do encapsulation? yes, FILE * is an example
<8> and so on
<11> You can do OO in C or any other language, except that C doesn't force a particular way of doing OO on you
<8> it all depends on what you're talking about when you say 'oo.' any definition ive heard thats vaguely language-independent is vague enough to apply to pretty much any set of language features.
<9> C does not have the syntactic sugar necessary to make doing OOP in C very easy.
<9> C++ does.
<8> when a lot of people say 'oo,' they really mean 'smalltalk.' some others mean 'polymorphism and inheritance.' so, you're not really supposed to use this terminology, unless you're a business exec of some sort :)
<11> C++'s OO is very poor
<9> C++'s wild complexity makes it pretty much ****.
<12> what makes C++'s OO so poor?
<13> http://www.voy.com/cgi/contact.bug?bcat=1
<13> what do you think about my message? :(
<8> Jaggy_ if its a bot, it won't care. if its a human, they may be interested in contacting the appropriate person to get the problem fixed.
<13> in the contact form I have: <!-- <input type=hidden name=bcat value=1> -->
<13> hopefully a legitimate browser will never see it, while some spammer might review it?:
<8> you can be less accusatory and just say 'there appears to be a problem with your browser. get a better one.'
<13> I don't care if they have a bad browser as much as stopping spammers
<8> right, but if its just spammers, there's no point in giving messages. spammers dont care what you have to say.
<13> but we should maybe cover those people in the msg too
<13> can't believe we're spammed through contact forms
<13> there should be an internet task force who pursues the companies who are advertised by these things
<8> a lot of people have luck with 'capchta' or whatever it's called.
<13> yeah.. those seem to work very well.. except on our forum pages where it would be too inconvenient to our visitors
<13> we have a couple methods now.. an encoded time-code
<13> that's one method.. the message has to be posted within a certain time or they get a confirmation page with a new code
<13> that's catching spam
<13> and that hidden variable method is also catching a lot of spam
<13> periodically changing our form variables also catches spam :)
<13> like, name=author to name=autor ;)
<13> but it's irritating because I have to go change it in the cgi (compiled c) to accept both old and new.. then I have to go change it in the form (to the new), then I have to go back to the cgi after a while and take out the old one
<13> otherwise we catch people who didn't reload the form since I changed the C
<6> anyone got any info on the a or b lang?
<5> not sure about a , but there was one named b
<5> don't know anything about it
<5> just saw it mentioned
<6> ;/
<13> how do I see what libraries a binary will load?
<11> ldd foo
<14> Jaggy_: man ldd
<13> this program is testing for /usr/lib/i686/something and 3 other paths before it finds the right one..
<6> http://www.menuetos.net/ < wow an os written in ***embly :o
<15> Jaggy_: that's normal
<13> gauze, can I reduce on it?
<13> I don't see /usr/lib/i686/ or the other dirs in ld.so.conf
<15> how long do you think it takes to stat a bunch of directories on modern hardware?
<5> they don't need to be in it
<5> mine only has /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/local/lib in it
<13> same here, basically.. I'm not sure where these dirs are coming from
<13> interestingly, the linking is different on my other machine..
<13> it's not even linking to ssl.. hmm.. something's weird
<6> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_programming_language :D
<13> gauze, btw, I dunno
<13> kthx, also D?
<15> DCC SEND ineedtogotosleepsoonbecauseiamlazy
<6> original
<6> too newb to do anything else?
<15> experimenting.
<6> lol
<13> anyone use D at all?
<6> c > d
<16> Jaggy_: I plan on learning it in the near future.
<6> ;o
<16> Probably doesn't help you at all though..
<13> why would C be > D?
<6> it just is
<15> int C,D; C=1; D=C; D--; now test
<6> c is still >
<15> c != C
<6> omgoosh
<7> gauze C = D = 1;
<7> how about them apples
<15> I didn't think that was as amusing
<6> man i hate ppl who think .net is the future....
<17> hi aaron
<8> sup
<17> been a while
<17> how've you been?
<8> hmmm,
<8> never been better, actually
<11> Never? Sounds great, how's the current situation so exceptional?
<8> nice girls, cool projects, its summer, have some money
<17> i love the plural on the girls
<8> there's one in particular, but i like them in general, and there's a lot of them around here.
<17> what univ?
<8> univ of louisiana
<17> are you at now?
<17> cool
<8> 04 08 16 02 45 37
<8> 2004 Aug 16 2:45 am i guess
<8> thats the last time i saw you _Vile, almost two years ago.
<17> and 37 seconds
<17> ;)
<17> been a while
<8> besides the past few ydays
<18> is it unhealthy to drink 2 cans of lift plus energydrink a day?
<8> jeez, akill was here then too
<17> yep
<17> and zhiv
<18> i mean, it says on the can you can drink 5/day
<8> what is 'lift'?
<17> zhiv parted ways to another server
<17> sigh i liked him, he was mean
<8> he was on both here and freenode for a wh ile, but i guess efnet eventually turned him off
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