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<0> i can't believe it. single-user desktop linux with 2gb ram. after 7 days of use, all 2GB is used, and 141904MB of swap, too
<1> Aeon_: that's deceiving
<0> why
<2> Blame open sores
<1> Aeon_: linux will 'use' virtually all your ram to cache stuff. however, the instant you need more ram, it'll dump stuff in that cache in a hurry
<0> mozilla: 314meg. X.org: 247 meg. acroread: 139 meg
<3> ttyl
<1> it'd be nice if 'free' and other utilities had the ability to make the distinction between what's 'really' being used, vs what the kernel is just caching to be nice
<4> Mozilla must not have been closed for a while
<0> myrddin: yea you're right. 900meg 'cached'
<4> Doesn't free print the +/- cache amounts?
<3> and while someone's doing it, maybe they could tell me which files are causing the most overhead
<3> which file access
<1> Maloeran: ah, it looks like it does, heh.
<3> a graphical display of the drive with colors showing what portions are in cache at the moment
<1> that's just silly
<1> though, I do keep lots of tabs open with firefox
<3> and you could click to see which files were being accessed
<5> hey
<3> things staying in the cache longer would become a different color..
<0> i think ff/moz is especially hoggy when one uses the irc extension
<5> does anyone know where i can get information on connecting to COMM1 serial port and reading/writing? (on windows xp)
<5> i need to write a very simple program.. or 2 programs, to read and write
<3> and it would keep track of things which leave and come back into the cache
<3> because those things are very important
<6> elux_ ask me
<0> elux: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnfiles/html/msdn_serial.asp
<6> no
<6> you don't want to do it from scratch
<5> scul: i dont think that link does it from scratch?
<6> lemme open it
<5> well.
<5> the win32 api
<5> im really just looking for a serial library that i can use with straight C on winxp
<6> hm, you can use C++ serial wrapper cl*** instead
<5> ill end up processing commands like serial.exe write "COM1" "somestring" or serial.exe read "COM1"
<0> elux_: C or C++ ?
<5> doesnt matter really
<6> one sec
<0> elux: try echo text >com1
<6> i'll give you URL
<6> for great cl***, that can be used in several ways
<7> sbahra: you should hear saudi arbia statement about the current chrisis. they blame and put full responsibility on lebanon, maybe you should consider changing your sources :)
<0> C++ is junk, really
<5> id rather use C .. but as long as it works i dont care
<7> it has its goods and bads.
<8> acid-: crisis, not chrisis
<0> junk has it's goods ?
<8> acid-: and you don't know the Saudi government as well as I do, I will not speak about it.
<7> sbahra: so they lie? :)
<6> Aeon_ - how would you know that?
<0> Saudi governmentn is not directly involved in the current conflict
<7> sure, but they're intelligent enough to realize that hezbollah is responsible with the current conflict.
<0> scul: I just know it
<8> acid-: Again, you're ignorant about the matter and the puppetry of the government.
<6> elux_ http://www.codeproject.com/system/serial.asp
<8> acid-: I am friends with many members of the royal family, they're opinion is not: "It's Lebanon's fault"
<7> sbahra: keep your personal flames to yourself :), why wont you talk about it? you talked just fine about israel.
<8> because I put myself at risk and my friends.
<8> In this context.
<6> that collection of cl***es is very powerful. it can be used in Win32 APi or MFC applicatin, etc...
<7> sbahra: thats what they stated. i dont know what goes on inside the royal family :)
<4> A collection of cl***es to open /dev/ttyS0, typical :}
<6> you can make wrapper for it, pack it in .dll and use it in your C project too
<0> good serial cl*** library would suport both win32 *and* linux
<4> Serial on Linux would be trivial, /dev/ttySn are your devices
<6> Maloeran - how do you access serial port on linux, in event driven mode
<0> Maloeran: but portable library is a gain
<0> that convers win32 & linux under same api
<0> scul: mostly, select or threads
<0> s/convers/covers/
<4> As any other file descriptors, select() will do
<0> btw, the c++ portable serial lib is easy to find, there are millions. But C serial portable lib is hard to find
<0> *hard to find*
<0> there are $$ libs, though
<0> probably because win32 ppl do not care about C
<4> C APIs are usable from about any language, C++ APIs are quite a pain on that regard
<7> sbahra: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2006-07-13T220037Z_01_L13880815_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-LEBANON-SAUDI.xml
<6> Maloeran - it is easy to make C wrapper for C++ stuff
<8> acid-: How corrupt is the family?
<8> acid-: In general, most of the ones in power.
<8> Please.
<7> sbahra: just go read. or reuters is like FOX for you :)
<8> Whatever floats your boat.
<7> heh.
<7> im just saying, israel is not the only one responsible for this crisis.
<8> Israel wants this.
<7> sure
<7> you might be right
<7> gives us a reason to blow hezbollah away
<7> not that we didnt have one already
<8> acid-: Exactly.
<8> Hizbollah is the only real threat (as a militant group and political party) to Israel.
<0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah
<7> sbahra: not such a big threat as you believe. we survived stronger threats and we will survive hezbollah.
<3> profile's showing like.. 239 calls.. I compiled my library with -pg too.. hmm
<3> I figure some of these things must run thousands of times..
<8> acid-: errr, not my point.
<8> acid-: Hizbollah is the most tactical, it is the strongest (full-on wars are trivial for Israel).
<7> sbahra: so its only legitimate that we'll want to destroy them as they want to destroy us no?
<8> blah blah
<8> ;]
<3> where's "pure jewish state" discussed in the scripture, btw?
<8> It's not.
<8> Deutronomy has some notes, but it is with regards to ancient divisions
<8> and it is only one reference
<8> Rest is peace, etc...
<7> its not the issue now
<7> hezbollah wants to destroy us, we destroy them. sounds like a great script to me :)
<9> how do i program color letters for dos prompt
<9> in unix i did escape sequence and [1;43m blah blah
<9> it worked good
<10> same works with ms dos prompt environment variable last i remember
<10> long as ansi.sys is in memory
<3> char far *screen=(char far *)0xB8000000; ??
<3> heh
<0> cyeh same
<0> especially if you use xterm of like
<9> ty pals i will try
<0> time to go to bed
<3> these things are political or no?
<3> it's sad, because you can get something in your head, and even with the other things that exist, you can't get the impurity out..
<3> it can take some good guidance to correct
<9> jaggy what did the far keyword mean when dos programming
<9> could u point me to a good dos programmer manual
<3> not close in memory
<3> no.. hmm..
<9> they made so many cool programs for dos
<3> you should look around on the web..
<9> i like it more than unix
<9> yes i should
<11> FAR. I remember FAR.
<11> cyeh: Are you familiar with Intel segmentation?
<9> i read about it
<9> i didnt understand it
<11> Eheh. I can give an explanation if you like; I'm bored
<9> please
<11> Alright. The Intel 8086, 16-bit chip. Works on 16-bit numbers.
<11> It can address up to 1MB of memory. That's a 20-bit address bus
<9> sofar so good
<11> So, in order to get to all 20 bits, Intel smoked some mushrooms and came up with segmentation
<11> Take two 16-bit numbers, called the segment and the offset. Segment * 16 + Offset = Actual address
<11> So, let's take somewhere in video memory. address A1234, that'd be segment A000 and offset 1234
<9> thats not that bad
<11> The only problem is, it can be A001:1224, and A002:1214, and A003:1204, and...
<11> That's why segmentation ****s it.
<12> xargoon is a p0rn king
<11> Anyway. If you set a particular segment value, you can get to 64K of memory at once
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