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<0> For real, I'm back to work
<1> I'm still talking about martians
<0> Aeon_: Hit me up when I'm not working. :-) (6PM EST)
<2> sbahra is too serious today
<3> lol i just read up
<3> good points Aeon_
<2> But well, living 17 years in Syria, I can understand where he gets ideas that "Israel must be dissolved"
<3> 1/4 of Israel are Arab
<3> and honestly there are 0 problems
<3> In fact, they like living under Israeli control
<2> HOw can a man who lived 17 years in Syria can be trusted for sane ideas
<3> ^
<2> hehe
<3> All I know is that I'm sure as hell glad I have my army service delayed indefinetly because I would not want to be in Israel right now.
<3> If I didn't
<3> I'm going there in August on vacation still :)
<0> Aeon_: In Saudi, not Syria, dumb ***.
<0> Aeon_: I am objective, believe it or not. :-)
<3> sbahra, tell me if you would be happy with this scenario
<3> and then tell me how Israel should respond
<3> Israel withdraws from the Gaza strip completely and out of Lebanon
<0> :-(
<3> OK, that's how it was after the disengagement.
<0> Aeon_: So violent.
<0> yoelPlat: That's not justice.
<0> and I can't discuss this now
<3> How is that not justice?
<3> Palestine wants a separate state
<3> They could just become Israeli citizens and try running for political positions like all the other 1.5 million Arabs in Israe.
<1> +martians should stay on mars!
<3> And then serve in the Israeli military.
<3> I think that's the justified solution actually. Get rid of Palestine, let it become part of Israel, let all Palestnians become Israeli citizens and have to underatke the same responsibilites as all Israelis.
<2> jeffloc: all martians died today of flu bird
<1> unfortunately they all layed eggs first
<4> man. israel is fighting everyone today.
<3> Ya well Katuysha's were fired at Haifa.
<2> sbahra fighted on the side of hezbollah
<2> i shoot him twice
<3> Thus Beirut International Airport is getting raped.
<2> in the feet
<0> "Fighted"
<0> Interesting.
<2> fought
<0> and how you think I "fight with the side of Hizbollah", I don't know.
<4> english is his only and least well understood language. :)
<2> well thank god you can speak
<3> Sbahra, I am just interested in hearing your justified solution
<1> I'm not interested at all
<4> i don't get it. both sides had disputes with captives. yet one side decided to start bombing the other.
<0> yoelPlat: Yes, I like your solution. That's exactly what I want (and mean by dissolved). There will be fighting wiht regards to the name, so that needs to be worked.
<2> OrngeTide: every side uses every weapon it has
<0> yoelPlat: There also needs to 2 parties (one for non-Jews, one for Jews) as long as Israel wants to keep good face with Jewish population (well, the ones that are down with it).
<3> Why only 2
<3> There are several parties
<4> sure. i'm sure israel has been sick of taking occational rockets for many years now
<2> i'm sick of these news
<3> OrngeTide, it's not fun when you have katuysha and casam rockets landing in your back yard.
<4> yoelPlat, yea. that's the tricky part. although palistine and lebanon are somewhat united against isreal.
<4> i'd just move. **** living in israel.
<3> Well actually all Arab nations in the region are pretty much against Israel.
<4> canadians hardly ever take americans captive.
<2> heh
<5> I just hope they all nuke each other and let the rest of us worry only about whether the Page 3 girl has big enough breasts
<3> Except for maybe Jordan and Egypt. They don't really care.
<4> yoelPlat, yea. with varying degrees of agression.
<2> what appeases me, it is the thought thaqt in 100 years everything will settle up
<4> apparently the tv tells me that militias are forming in iraq to provide aid in the war against israel.
<1> squeeze, or whether they are real
<5> jeffloc: Page 3 girls are always real!
<0> yoelPlat: simplicity
<4> Aeon_, well if in a 100 years one side finished off the other, then yes i agree with you.
<4> Maloeran, ahah
<3> You know what I find the funniest thing is that the Palestinian leader that Israel is most comfortable dealing with , Mahmoud Abbas aka. Abu Mazen, the guy's a ****ing nut case
<3> sbahra, did you know that Mahmoud Abbas is a nutcase?
<0> OrngeTide: issue is much more complex than that (I see no mention of innocent Palestine lives lost and captured)
<3> And is quite racist?
<0> yoelPlat: He is an idiot.
<0> yoelPlat: Most Arabs are not down with him in the region BTW.
<4> if it was up to me, i would just dirty bomb all holy cities and meccas. people can figure out some other way to talk to god instead of killing each other over little scraps of land for religious reasons.
<3> Yet he's the 1 Israel is most willing to work with.
<3> sbahra, then who are most arabs down with.
<0> He's a puppet yoelPlat.
<0> yoelPlat: No one.
<1> spread death dust all over the whole area
<3> So then what should be done...
<4> sbahra, the issue is incredibly complex, so much so that most americans ***ume there is no solution.
<1> that'll get rid of those martians
<3> The current Palestinian leader has a PhD in explaining how the Holocaust never occured.
<2> there is no quick solution, for sure
<1> and their eggs
<3> I think that in itself is a rather large problem.
<0> yoelPlat: but honestly, Hamas > Abbas. If peace can be made, it should be negiotiated with Hamas and not Abbas (but I don't think Hamas is a good option either, at all).
<4> sbahra, anyways. i did mention that both sides had captives.
<3> Hamas won't stop until Israel is destroyed
<0> yoelPlat: but speaking of practicality of things
<0> haha
<3> They even said that
<0> OrngeTide: I saw this video
<0> OrngeTide: "Palestine - Israel 101", some American guide to "solving the conflict" in 4 steps or something
<4> also israel is my countries ally, not palestine. palestine has shown in the past that they are not interested in allying with america.
<0> You should video google it
<0> yoelPlat: You too. :-P
<4> sbahra, i'll have to check it out.
<6> Grr.
<6> I got a C in Lit =(
<0> yoelPlat: They said that, but they need to keep the m***es. So when Israel steps up to discuss things, they *have* to be open.
<0> yoelPlat: Abbas is not in the position of power to achieve peace, that's all.
<3> How are you so sure that Hamas wants peace?
<4> actually we should bring back the soviet union and they should capture israel and all arab states and then enforce a secular society. and execute anyone who resists. it would probably be less bloody in the long run.
<4> the ussr could have totally cleaned up afghanistan if the US didn't interfere.
<3> US ****s up a little bit too much
<2> true
<0> yoelPlat: I'm not. The m***es do though.
<3> they always help the wrong people
<0> yoelPlat: and Hamas exists only because the Palestinian m***es have no other option.
<3> or interfere in the wrong places
<7> well yea. they could have dropped a nuke on it
<4> well we weren't interested in afghanistan's freedom. we were mostly interested in poking the big evil ussr in the eye.
<0> yoelPlat: So, if they turn it down...either 1) They will lose control/power 2) They lose support from other nations
<3> Whoa.
<8> Israel is bashing Lebanon now, huh
<3> <0> yoelPlat: and Hamas exists only because the Palestinian m***es have no other option.
<6> ack?!
<3> That statement is completely wrong.
<4> this is generally the problems with US foreign policy. we interfer with other countries not for the benefit of those countries but for the benefit of ourselves, and usually a short term benefit (like sending a "message" to someone we don't like).
<3> Hamas is rooted in Damascus. Not in Aza.
<4> aedinius, BootCamp ****s.
<6> OrngeTide: How do you mean?
<6> OrngeTide: It's not necessary, the ROM on the new Macs can boot Windows without BootCamp
<4> aedinius, the drivers disk doesn't have trackpad drivers. so i can't use the whole two-finger scroll or two-finger click for right button tricks.
<4> aedinius, no it cannot.
<6> I was able to
<4> i tried it without bootcamp. windows install actually fails. it complains that there is no <system root>/system32/hal.dll .. i tried multiple times
<6> Oh
<4> when i use bootcamp it worked fine.
<6> I didn't try to complete the install
<2> which function gets me current time but in struct timespec instead of struct timeval ?
<4> yea. the install completes fine. but once you boot it, it dies
<6> Oh.
<6> Eh.
<6> I have little interest in running Windows on the MB anyway
<4> clock_gettime maybe?
<2> clock_gettime, yes
<6> Anyone know why ack got banned?
<2> thanks
<2> maybe soeone stole his nickl ?
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