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<0> Did you try the compiler from the VCToolkit?
<0> It's a standalone commandline compiler.
<0> Other people like MINGW32
<1> Nope
<1> never got mingw to fly..
<1> but vctoolkit i've never heard of
<0> The VCToolkit are the command-line tools from Microsoft's Visual Studio
<1> ok
<2> hehe gcc is best :)
<2> but i agree that mingw installation is painful.
<3> ..what?
<3> you click it, it installs :P
<2> there are many packages, and the docs **** fairly bad, and its fairly difficult to figure out what you need, and get up and running
<4> gcc is bestest
<5> daxxar: did you get your recvmsg to work ?
<6> whats better epoll or devpoll?



<0> Any way to tell bind to pick a random port? (but a specific IP)
<0> Aeon`, yep. A bit slow, at work. ;-)
<0> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7RHo6917.html
<6> calc devpoll
<7> Answer to 'foo' is not in the database, Sir
<5> kthx^: ->
<5> www.kegel.com/c10k.html
<6> thx nice link
<6> i wonder if linux is gonna get kqueue
<8> hey guys, sprintf(format, "%%%ds", dbf->db_flen); is this trying to put %d and %s into format?
<9> oh god, is that a scanf format string?
<8> mauke: talking to me?
<9> yes
<8> no its sprintf()
<9> then it doesn't make any sense
<8> expand?
<9> what?
<8> could it be used as type of scanf?
<3> it's the inverse of scanf
<3> my guess is %%%ds prints '%%7s'
<10> hat7: that puts a percent, then dbf->db_flen, then an s into format.
<10> %7s, then.
<10> i vaguely remember some kind of * specifier that lets you specify the field width as an integer argument.
<10> you should use this rather than making format strings in ****ed up ways.
<9> yeah, you could just do printf("%*s", dbf->db_flen, str)
<2> evilgeek's years of cs acadamia wasted as he's reduced to interpretting scanf format strings
<10> i have no years of CS academia, dude. i'm a math geek.
<2> mathematical cs acadamia
<2> besides
<2> i thought rigorous types despised C
<10> see, i like to get **** done.
<10> C is a good language for getting **** done.
<8> ok so it puts "%12s" into format if dbf->db_flen = 12 for example
<8> ?
<8> **** why dont i just compile and see
<8> :P
<8> ./test
<8> %32s
<8> evilgeek you where right
<11> somone's being naughty again
<2> while 1 { /squit * /connect * }
<2> hehe, /squit * is always fun. most people think it means 'disconnect all servers connected to me' or 'disconnect one of the servers connected to me'
<2> in actuality, it picks a fairly random irc server on the network, and disconnects it from its peer closest to you.
<2> part of the problem here is that both server peers have to list each other in their config files, and only hubs are allowed to connect people anyway. as a practical matter, most servers only have a few servers they can link to anyway, and the relinking process tends to randomly fail a lot
<2> so if a hub flakes out, a lot of servers keep trying to reconnect to it for lack of anything better to do, and you get this crap
<11> wouldn't yo think they'd fix it
<2> they're probably sleeping.
<2> whats really needed is support for redundant non-heirarchal server-server links. it virtually eliminates these sorts of problems.
<2> the heirarchal system is hugely problematic, even when it works. you often end up with one particular server-server link that carries half of the network traffic.
<12> my nerves have lots of parallel connections in them
<13> Aaron, the problem, afaik, isn't technical, it's political.
<13> Aaron, that is, the hierarchial structure is there for a political reason.
<14> scalability and reliability of irc ****s
<14> commercial chat systems do it much much pebber
<14> *better
<2> hubs exist for political reasons. but theres no reason hubs couldnt have redundant links.
<14> i was thinking of 'better'
<2> they already have multiple potiential peers... just not at the same time.
<13> Well, that means they already have redundant links.
<2> i mean, simultaneously



<13> What, with each message bring sent redundantly?
<13> s/bring/being/
<10> AaronWL: that's also a pain in the *** to implement.
<2> eg, each hub would maintain continuous links to each other hub it has permission to peer with
<2> you would need more advanced routing, but it isnt that big of a deal
<2> its not nearly as hard as internet routing.
<2> ideally, you'd want your irc routing to loosely approximate internet multicast routing
<10> AaronWL: IRC has a long tradition of being something that some guy hacked up in 5 minutes and gave to some other guy, who spent another 5 minutes hacking on some ****ed up feature, who then p***ed it on, and so forth.
<13> Oh. No, I wouldn't. Simply no reason for it.
<2> redundant hub links eliminates large netsplits.
<2> and it balances load more fairly, and leads to lower latency
<10> AaronWL: if some guy can't hack this up in 5 minutes, it's never going to happen.
<12> were you conceived in 5 minutes?
<12> I'm not sure if I said it properly, but the joke was intended. :)
<2> i think the main problem is that most ircd developers don't have much formal CS training
<5> Jaggy_: you refer to the length of coitus ?
<2> at least half of them are 'kids' with no real experience
<12> tsk
<5> intercourse can longer or shorter than 5 minutes, technically speaking
<2> the bigger problem though is that there are zillions of ircds, splitting and diluting the development talent
<12> but what an amazing world it is with all these kids making this stuff
<12> it's adults that don't put CIRCLE and SQUARE drawing tools in gimp.
<2> haha
<15> That'd make things far too easy.
<12> nooo.. they're serious artists and designers.. they don't have square pegs and round holes.
<12> or round pegs.. hm
<5> what are you talking about
<12> the duration of coitus
<5> 5 minutes, yes
<12> no.. I'm just babbling before I go afk for a while
<12> bonding over this irc thing, which is much more stable and reliable than most other things I know of.
<5> so, these kids have square pegs, and thir g/fs have, round holes ?
<5> do i understand you correctly ?
<5> and this is why you think they don't fit ?
<2> Aeon_ have you seen the pink panther movies?
<12> unlikely from the sound of it, Aeon. :) but you're encouraging me to question myself. anyhow, I've gotta get going... I'm a bit late :)
<5> AaronWL: nmo
<12> http://www.straightdope.com/cl***ics/a1_060.html
<5> i love straightdope
<12> http://www.straightdope.com/cl***ics/a1_122.html
<2> Aeon_ too bad. older ~1970s american comedies. the tone and manner of your typing reminds me of the speaking of the main character..
<12> me too.. read through the book (I think most of it?) in jr. high..
<12> memorized the second URL's poem up there too.
<5> I love straightdope about pigeon chickens
<12> question and response
<12> Does an airplane have a lighter load after the p***engers have consumed their rubber chicken and plastic vegetables? --R.C., Evanston, Illinois
<12> Dear R., Food doesn't cease to exist merely because somebody swallowed it, beanbrain.
<12> (there's more to this response)..
<12> heh.. bye folks
<12> I think I'm acting differently because of the way I think you view me.
<5> "The answer to your question, incredibly enough, is yes--pigs do have corkscrew-shaped penises. "
<5> "...Accompanying this p***age is a helpful drawing revealing that not only does the male pig have a corkscrew-shaped wanker, the female pig has a corkscrew-shaped receptacle, as it were--actually, a corkscrew-shaped cervix."
<5> ... Thanks Jaggy. You're incredible guy.
<16> http://modseven.de/ircrpg.php woah, AaronWL must have had quite some spamming session in the past 10 hours, he has overtaken #c++ and #c
<12> Aeon
<2> binrapt that is your website?
<12> I think I'm happier.
<12> Ask questions on other than computers.
<2> happiness = k * repeat rate
<17> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
<18> heh. :>
<3> make $ fast! hold shift-4!
<19> hey guys
<17>
<19> hund, wtf are those?
<19> it's space invaders!
<17> shift-4s.
<19> german keyboard?
<2> hmmm i remember there being some weird political thing behind the international currency symbol
<12> Hafez said in a poem, "I try to never say no, when it's clear God has said 'Yes, yes, yes!' to every enlightening moment."
<12> s/never/rarely/ ?
<17> It's the "rest of the world" feature. It's the international currency symbol, on a Norwegian keyboard. :P


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